theirs was a failed attempt to overturn the results of a free and fair election. it failed attempt to disrupt a sacred tradition that has been a part of american democracy, making it a model of peaceful democracy for over 200 years. january 2021 marked a new beginning, a new phase in safeguarding the american experiment. i m jonathan capehart. this is the saturday show. here we are, three years after the insurrection. we are still living with the consequences of that day. the persistent threats to our democracy, with republican voters casting their first republican primary votes this month, donald trump continuing to hold commanding lead, they g lead, in the polls, we are faced with the startling possibility that the man impeached for in the riots on january 6th could be the man who claimed the insurrectionists had love in their hearts. who referred to january 6th as a beautiful day. who vowed to pardon the rioters criminally charged in connection with the violence. people he
they were, certainly, in 2016, 18, or 20. the light is, indeed, flanking rand. sudden, your thoughts? so many after the two previous gas. one is to congresswoman dean s point about leadership, republican leadership. we do not have leadership in the republican party. we have trump lieutenants, perhaps. there is no leadership. there is no goal of moving a hand in any form of governance. right now the people in washington, the maga republicans, are only concerned about preserving their power base and supporting donald trump. that is not how our country can run. if you look at what happened on january 6th, as horrific as it was, i think it was equally horrific, not the hour, in days
both in the state department and elsewhere in the national security apparatus early this week several days before the new york times story broke that revealed what giuliani was doing overseas in multiple european countries started getting word that giuliani had made his way overseas. and they frantically tried to figure out what he was doing and they were freaking out he was going to do something that would potentially damage u.s. foreign policy or potentially bring more heat on the administration or the president even as he has obviously done before with these various ukraine-related shann d shenanigans. for days they tried to figure out what was going on. but tried to create a road map of which countries, which cities he was visiting in western europe, or europe i should say. and they were trying to do this right up until the moment the new york times story broke on wednesday revealing what he was doing. and when we asked rudy giuliani if he cared that these trump
but started to create sort of a road map of which countries and which cities he was visiting in western europe or europe i should say. and they happen trying to do this right up until the moment the new york times story broke on wednesday revealing what he was doing. and when we asked rudy giuliani if he cared that these trump lieutenants were frantically concerned about what he was doing he simply told us i hoped they would have better use of their time. rudy was tweeting yesterday that basically the fundamental element of the extortion is president is being impeached over, saying the bidens and to16 investigations has not been resolved and until it is it would be a major obstacle to the u.s. assisting ukraine. in ukraine he is making exactly the quid pro quo extortionary claim the president did. now, i m not a lawyer, but that seems like a really bad defense for your client,
kept playing him say i ll take a bullet for the president i was one of the people who said, yeah, i don t think so he s going to cooperate and he did albeit not totally fully but he s cooperating i do not think that of roger stone. i do not think he is capable of becoming a trustworthy cooperator even if he tried. i just cannot imagine a prosecutor ever embracing him. i think that s probably right. harry and meme ma, thanks to you both democratic wron wyden joins me now your reaction to the indictment for lying to congress and if i m not mistaken lying to your committee or house committee of roger stone. here is where we are. and i don t think it is just the lies of these trump lieutenants. it is what they were lying about.