kept playing him say i ll take a bullet for the president i was one of the people who said, yeah, i don t think so he s going to cooperate and he did albeit not totally fully but he s cooperating i do not think that of roger stone. i do not think he is capable of becoming a trustworthy cooperator even if he tried. i just cannot imagine a prosecutor ever embracing him. i think that s probably right. harry and meme ma, thanks to you both democratic wron wyden joins me now your reaction to the indictment for lying to congress and if i m not mistaken lying to your committee or house committee of roger stone. here is where we are. and i don t think it is just the lies of these trump lieutenants. it is what they were lying about.