roger stone is clearly named as the intermediary, the conduit between russia, wikileaks and the trump campaign and it casts in very dangerous contexts the president but also his son donald trump jr. who came before a committee where i served, the judiciary committee and made some statements that are very, very seriously in doubt as to their truthfulness now, after some of what is in this indictment. you think that you think the president s son, don junior, because of his testimony before the judiciary committee then chaired at the time by chair grassley, that he made false statements to that committee he has some explaining to do and i think his truthfulness is very seriously in doubt as to some of the statements he made about the trump tower meeting, his father s knowledge of it and about the statements also involving the wikileaks release
a trump presidency it is ink influenced by a stone if philosophy rick perlstein and, nick, i want to start with you you encountered him as a water prosecutor. i did. under what circumstance to be precise, september 26th, 1973 i was investigating an incident that occurred on may 3rd, 1972 on the capitol hill where the white house under charles colson organized an event to try to maim or kill daniel elseburg of the pentagon papers. one said he was instructed by two operatives on the committee to re-elect the president they were to go for daniel elseburg and to maim or kill him and the whole idea was that they brought up the same cuban-americans from
kept playing him say i ll take a bullet for the president i was one of the people who said, yeah, i don t think so he s going to cooperate and he did albeit not totally fully but he s cooperating i do not think that of roger stone. i do not think he is capable of becoming a trustworthy cooperator even if he tried. i just cannot imagine a prosecutor ever embracing him. i think that s probably right. harry and meme ma, thanks to you both democratic wron wyden joins me now your reaction to the indictment for lying to congress and if i m not mistaken lying to your committee or house committee of roger stone. here is where we are. and i don t think it is just the lies of these trump lieutenants. it is what they were lying about.
appropriate redactions to support sensitive matters, i m going to make sure it gets in the hands of the amarercerican people. do you have the power to do that? sure. you have to protect what are called sources and methods. we don t compromise on matters that could put at risk american cans. but you can certainly go to the floor of the united states senate and make a very aggressive push to make sure that the american people get the truth and you just can asked about what s coming up. that unnamed individual we heard about today is exactly the kind of question that needs to be addressed for the public. what is your view in both your role as a senator who has real civil liberties concerns and a member of the senate committee about the status of wikileaks because that is going to be an extremely germane issue
has been so interconnected that it s hard to define what s roger and what s donald. it will be leclearly a trump presidency, i think it s influenced by a stone philosophy. you encountered roger stone as a watergate prosecutor. it was september 26th, 1973. i was investigating an incident that occurred on may 3rd, 1972 on the capitol hill where the white house, under charles colson who is the counsel to the president organized an event to try and name or kill the publisher of the pentagon papers. at least one witness told me he was instructed by two of the operatives from the white house and the committee to reelect the president that they would go for