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Transcripts for MSNBC Deadline White House 20240604 20:14:00

momentarily from doing the job you were assigned to do. right. puts it on her, too. don t feel the need to defend me. because she knows she s getting most of the incoming and i m sure people are close to her in that office who are very offended and want to say things about it. eye route. you re right. saying things is falling into were the trap donald trump and others set. stay above the fray and do their jobs. exactly what she said and have security, need to be protected, and there s a whole growing circle of people who need security. frank, a section of the department of homeland security s most s recent terrorism bulletin that reads, in the coming months factors that can mobilize individuals to commit violence include their perceptions of the 2024 general election cycle and legislative or judicial decisions pertaining to sociopolitical issues. notice, of course, dbt is not mentioned by name. hard to imagine this isn t taken

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Transcripts for MSNBC Deadline White House 20240604 21:04:00

cross-examination. so his lawyers don t want him to take the stand. so i think a lot of stuff is just bluster. in the end, they re going to hope to delay, delay, delay past the election where he can be president again and forces the department of justice to drop everything. but i think judge chutkan is going the expedite this matter. this is going about the first case, in my opinion, that will go t to trial. you can expedite the matter, basel and take the calendar and overwlat the presidential calendar, you end up getting in some really tricky territory. yeah, that s why someone in any other candidate in the similar situation would have dropped out by new. because why put yourself, your family and the country through all of this? but, yes, running up into the primaries, debates are going to be taking place. all of this gives, as you re saying, the president an opportunity to direct and to create, craft his own narrative about this case. donald trump campaigns as a martyr. it doesn

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Transcripts for MSNBC Deadline White House 20240604 21:07:00

but even so, i see 30 to 40 witnesses having to be called. some of them might be brief witnesses. but that s still a lot of witnesses. jack smith gave a trial estimate of i think six to eight weeks. i don t think that s a crazy estimate, but that probably doesn t take into account it can t take into account jury deliberations of any substantial length. and there are always things that come up in the middle of trial. so six to eight weeks is sort of an optimistic if everything goes really well and perfectly, which it rarely does. that s where i see that estimate staying. that s where we are in the calendar, january 2nd takes us through to march. he has the criminal trial in new york. alvin bragg s trial coming up in march. that is a really big@risk that you just put on that date. understand we do have a date tomorrow. we re going hear from judge chutkan. what do you expect her to say about this protective order? i think she is going to grant the protective order. donald trump sent

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Transcripts for MSNBC Deadline White House 20240604 20:19:00

face is internal. it s other americans. other americans listening to the former president of the united states, and that is an extraordinary moment we find ourselves in. extraordinary indeed. thank you so much for spending time with us. and all you others, when we come back, donald trump s two co-defendanting in the classified documents case were in a florida courtroom this morning. an update on that hearing and unprecedented request coming from the ex-president in this case. plus, prosecutors in the other case, the election interference case laying out the trial unfolding lining up with the 2024 political calendar. later in the show, supreme court justice claires thomas extensive network of billionaire friends and secret luxury perks. new reporting going much, much further than what was already known. all of those stories and more when deadline: white house continues after this. do not go anywhere. um kellye champagne taste.

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Transcripts for MSNBC Deadline White House 20240604 20:09:00

especially since donald trump cited he is going to, he s going to be running ads. the element of his rhetoric seems to be intensifying against prosecutors, judges. perhaps even jurors here. and i think the people need to understand, you know that this may sound like, okay, it s donald trump again. same old playbook, but he does seem to be ramping it up at exactly the moment when you would think that calmer heads would say, hey, we need to lower the temperature, because this is dangerous. there s lots of guys like this. it s also worth remembering that jack smith did not indict donald trump for inciting violence of january 6th but he did in his indictment say that donald trump was exploiting it. donald trump does both. incites and exploits. but this is important to understand. that in donald trump s mind and atmosphere of fear, chaos and violence actually works for him, he think us.

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