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And aid was released to ukraine, correct? yes, i read that. let s talk about the context broadly of this hold and there were other countries whose security assistance was on hold, quote, the aid package to lebanon was also being held in the same fashion, correct? correct. foreign aid was held from tribal countries of south america, correct? central america. central america. and you also testified that when you served as ambassador to pakistan, security assistance was also held for their failure to conform to our concerns regarding terrorists and other issues on the afghan-pakistan border. correct. you know, basically, let s broadly talk about the context of all of these holds on aid. when we talk about aid i always think about, these are hard-earned taxpayer dollars. would you agree with that? absolutely. isn t it correct that this ....
That the president would have to take to notify congress. as far as you know, was there ever a note that was sent out to congress? there was no such notice, to my knowledge or preparation of such notice to my knowledge. there was never rescission or reprogramming of that money? no, sir. not to my knowledge. instead what happened was omd devised an alternative solution in providing footnotes to implement the hold and their payment time in august when the department of defense no longer had the footnotes because of concerns there might be sufficient time for dod to obligate the funds before the end of the fiscal year in violation of the act. despite the concerns about the koven troll act and hoshgs mb s footnote, the hold nevertheless, continued through september 11th ....
President trump officially talked to president zelensky where investigations of the bidens were brought up, is that right? sir, i only know what has been reported publicly on this. and that was reported, is that right? that s correct. second, this president as a champion of anti-corruption, your testimony today is that on may 23, you certified that as far as it related to your duties, ukraine had met the corruption concerns for the aid to be released, is that right? sir, the defense department certified. and after that date, inexplicably, the president of the united states puts a hold on security assistance, is that right? that was what i heard in july, yes. now this anti-corruption president who cares so much about rooting out corruption in ukraine, did he ever call you after he put the hold to say ms. cooper, what s going on in ukraine? ....
Javelin. and there wasn t a hold put on purchasing of the equipment. is that correct? not to my question, can i ask you a non-impeachment inquiry. a nonwhat? a non-impeachment inquiry question? sir, my time is yours. what can we be doing to help the ukrainians defend against russian electronic warfare? what more can we do to defend against russian electronic warfare? there is electronic warfare detection equipment who was included in the usa ipaqage, and there s a provide them. this specific topic is more suitable for a closed-door session. that s a good copy. thanks for your service to our country. chairman, i yield back. thank you, chairman and thank you all for your testimony ....
Also trained five military battalions of the ukraine, is that correct? again. i don t have the figures in front of me, but y the training began in the obama administration and we did train many forcees. and under the obama administration founded ukrainian security assistance initiative provided to the ukrainians were armored humvees, tactical drones, night vision devices, armored vests and medical equipment, is that correct? those all sound like pieces of equipment that were provided in the obama administration to my recollection. you would agree that s a lot more than blankets, right? yes, sir. ambassador hale, the aid that was withheld to lebanon and pakistan, those were for legitimate foreign policy objectives, is that right? i would say that s true. the assistance to pakistan and i would not have a current hold on the lebanese program. and you would agree that ....