and aid was released to ukraine, correct? >> yes, i read that. let's talk about the context broadly of this hold and there were other countries whose security assistance was on hold, quote, the aid package to lebanon was also being held in the same fashion, correct? >> correct. foreign aid was held from tribal countries of south america, correct? >> central america. >> central america. and you also testified that when you served as ambassador to pakistan, security assistance was also held for their failure to conform to our concerns regarding terrorists and other issues on the afghan-pakistan border. >> correct. >> you know, basically, let's broadly talk about the context of all of these holds on aid. when we talk about aid i always think about, these are hard-earned taxpayer dollars. would you agree with that? >> absolutely. >> isn't it correct that this