the new york times says you have to notes in this recording that suggests cork ran doesn t suggest he was waved away from searching anywhere other than that fateful storage room, but indicated no one in mar-a-lago spoke up to tell him he should look elsewhere. you can t say where a probe like this is exactly headed for all the reasons we mentioned, professor. you can say there is above average heat. we have the second grand jury, we have meadows, and then you have this strange case of a lawyer who s brought in to help with the documents case and now is making his own contemporaneous recordings. why? well, i think it seems pretty clear that at some point evan cork ran realized he had a pretty erratic client, and in order to cover his own proverbial butt, he probably needed to make some notes to self, some memos to the file about what was going on. we joked about this on this and other shows maga might stand for making attorneys get
i ll throw in sooner or later, jack smith is going to have to shoot his shot. he s not throwing it away, ari. seems clear. i could have done that. you could have done that? i didn t want to interrupt. there you have it. we hope to be wiser for your insights. thank you both. we have a lot coming up them trump insider is going to walk me through what it means to be in a probe like this. first, our breaking coverage continues on the chief of staff meadows when i m back with you in 60 seconds. 0 seconds. ( i like to move it by reel 2 real plays)
welcome to both of you. david, there s so much here. we ll get to meadows which, a big headline breaking just moments ago. but let s start with the idea that there are two grand juries at work. doesn t sound like good news if you re a of the probe. the grand jury is sitting in the district where the crime occurred, is the district where it s going to be presented. there s often crimes that straddle districts. if you re going to read it here, the way i look at it is recently discovered or recently showed trump was showing documents to people at mar-a-lago. that would be in the southern florida where palm beach district is. it could be that. to slow you down, you re saying the former president takes a new action in florida, and the prosecutors then say, you know what? that as part of what we might
already been uncovered or that was new. i see it as really a mixed bag. hmm. and chai, all of this hangs over the public evidence. there may have been a time when bob mueller s sort of harvey dent level excitement by, again, the press and others got excessive. he didn t talk that much, as we know. but the record was that mueller brought cases, he won every case that went to trial, and he brought cases that exposed crimes at the highest level of the trump campaign. and i will say as i reported then, they did not find a conspiracy to work with the russian government. and that was the best news in the end of the mueller probe and report. what they did find was a conspiracy by paul manafort to work with other foreign actors, including those mixed up on other sides of the whole ukraine situation. they did find corruption. they did find tax evasion.
excellent point. an andrew weissman revealed what this is all about. there were substantial evidence of obstruction of justice that was amassed by the mueller probe. this is the first step in terms of criminal accountability. it s really a testament to the american criminal justice system and the rule of law. he s admitting this is revenge since the mueller probe failed or what. what is he getting at there? that s what it looks like. the sheer arrogance of these people to tie up donald trump s despite their best efforts in the russia collusion hoax. i think that was due in large part to devin nunes and those