discussion about whether you would ever serve as attorney general and you could do so as well. >> i sort of think, i think it was a brilliant podcast host, based on strict -- i think of myself as a colleague at nyu. i think, to me, it is just a remarkable week. because you have this real tension of seeing the rule of law in america finally holding donald trump to account. and i don't mean as the result. meaning, that this is due process, where you have a trial and it will be for the state to prove its case beyond a reasonable doubt. as we all know, to a unanimous jury and if they can't meet that burden, as the jury will determine, then the defendant is acquitted. but that is the rule of law and that is something that remarkably, the former leader of