which is always been the case for people of color, journalists around the world, they are the only people who can talk about their humanity. so why that mainstream media complex is saying, we do not believe you. you are not telling the truth. nothing that they, say nothing that so when i see these people, when they raise their dead children before cameras, i have so much, it s got fronting. i ve been to palestine myself. i honestly look at them, and i start, i pray for them. and i look at them and say, no matter how hard you try, there is a larger media network that is going to look at your baby, those dead children, the way they look at the children and the people who i was helping in ukraine. until we do with the racial dynamic of what s at play here, be honest, it s not going to change. thank you, my friend. and reporter: independent journalist terrell jermaine starr s is independent journalist and founder of block diplomatic and has an official youtube channel for s
reporter: good to see you again, my friend. keep warm. joining me now is the reverend william barber the second. he is the president of repairs of the breach, co-chair of the poor peoples campaign, a national call for more revival, as well as the founding director and professor of the center of public theology and public policy at the yield divinity school. which would give the viewers the impression, reverent, that you are a man of the cloth, a man of religion, which you are. but for the purposes of my show, and our friendship, you are a bit of an economist. you drop very, very clear lines between the number of people who are suffering economically in his country, particularly those who fall below the poverty line, the working poor. and our political necessities that we have right now, please tell me your thinking on this. you know, over 52 million people in this country make less than 15 dollar wage as minimum. reporter: we got unable to