>> reporter: good to see you again, my friend. keep warm. joining me now is the reverend william barber the second. he is the president of repairs of the breach, co-chair of the poor peoples campaign, a national call for more revival, as well as the founding director and professor of the center of public theology and public policy at the yield divinity school. which would give the viewers the impression, reverent, that you are a man of the cloth, a man of religion, which you are. but for the purposes of my show, and our friendship, you are a bit of an economist. you drop very, very clear lines between the number of people who are suffering economically in his country, particularly those who fall below the poverty line, the working poor. and our political necessities that we have right now, please tell me your thinking on this. >> you know, over 52 million people in this country make less than 15 dollar wage as minimum. >> reporter: we got unable to