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Transcripts for MSNBC The Beat With Ari Melber 20240604 22:26:00

It at least provides some kind of explanation for it. and that is always very helpful in front of a jury. explanations, some type of contact. all of this legal stuff is happening in the background or the foreground, depending where you are of the 2024 presidential race. and like you, i follow all of the polls. the polls show republican voters don t care about what donald trump did or didn t do. but i also have to say we end up in the endless loop we end up every section cycle where people learn to lie with poll numbers and ignore things like margin of error. you have a new piece out where you write trump s lead is by no means insurmountable, but it is more obviously insurmountable than similar leads from previous years past. look at the way in which bernie sanders crept up on hillary clinton. it s not comfortable for a variety of reasons, including first of all donald trump is ....

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Transcripts for MSNBC The Beat With Ari Melber 20240604 23:44:00

And has been shunned by. he is a product of the democratic party, of one of the most famous families in democratic party politics. he s well connected to hollywood through generations of his family. his uncle was president, his father ran for president, was a senator, was attorney general. his other uncle was a senator, you know, from 1962 until his death. you know, he comes from a family that is so politically connected, and in fact, also in political media. his friends have been people who have run magazines, his cousin john kennedy jr. founded a magazine before his death. he s been published in magazines over decades and in fact cited those publications to me as his qualifications to be president. so he is in fact the only reason that he s there is because of the very institutions and his centrality to those institutions that he s telling everybody he s an outsider to and he wants to ....

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Transcripts for MSNBC The Beat With Ari Melber 20240604 22:42:00

Donald trump. they see trump as a strong man, you know, as the guy who is going to be beat them all. after all, the government is coming after trump so they can then get to his supporters. and trump is the strongman who is protect them from the deep state. and graham has just weakened himself publicly to such a degree that even donald trump supporters can t abide by him anymore. i think, david jolly, you may be the one who told me you put these folks into three camps. you the loyalists. you have the people who are sort of putting their heads in the sands that are hopeful that all of this just pass. and then you never trumpers. and i wonder if you are someone, if you are an elected republican who has been loyal to donald trump, and you watch what went down for lindsey graham this weekend in district, what the lesson is to you. the bar on loyalty is ....

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Transcripts for MSNBC The Beat With Ari Melber 20240604 22:07:00

Interviewed him. quote, ducey told the donor he was surprised that special counsel jack smith s team had not inquired about his phone calls with trump and pence as part of the justice department s investigation. it is unclear if ducey has been contacted by smith s office since meeting with the donor. investigators in the special counsel s office have asked witnesses about trump s calls with governors, including the one to ducey, according to two people familiar with the matter. if smith has spoken with ducey, or plans to in the future, that could lead to even more legal jeopardy for the ex-president, especially considering he likely faces another indictment out of georgia for that similar call with brad raffensperger you heard a moment ago. harry litman joins us now. the former deputy assistant general in the department of justice. danya perry served as deputy attorney general for new york state. philip bump is a columnist for the washington post where he has written extensively abou ....

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Transcripts for MSNBC The Beat With Ari Melber 20240604 22:04:00

It happen. look, all i want to do is this. i just want to find 11,780 votes, which is one more than we have, because we won the state. so what are we going to do here? i only need 11,000 votes. fellows, i need 11,000 votes. give me a break. we know trump made other attempts to pressure arizona republicans specifically to overturn the election results. the former speaker of the arizona state house told the january 6th committee about his own experiences with the ex-president just last year. after the election, you received a phone call from president trump and rudy giuliani in which they discussed the result of the presidential election in arizona. if you would, tell us about that call and whether the former president or mr. giuliani raised allegations of election fraud. you said that they did have proof, and i asked do you have names? for example we have 200,000 ....

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