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election, we re still uncovering more attempts by donald trump to overturn results. according to a new report in the washington post, president trump tried to pressure doug ducey to overturn the election results, saying if now fraudulent votes could be found, it could overcome trump s narrow loss in arizona. we re learning about the content of this conversation for the first time. we already knew trump and ducey spoke after the 2020 election. trump tried to call ducey while he was certifying the election for biden on an official government live stream. on 2020, ducey was literally signing the papers to end the election, seated in front of the press. but you have to listen carefully. you can make out hail to the chief as ducey reaches into his pocket to silence the call. the ring tone is just spectacular. ducey did eventually speak to trump. did not record the call. but we have some idea what it might sound like because trump made a lot of calls in multiple states ....
Interviewed him. quote, ducey told the donor he was surprised that special counsel jack smith s team had not inquired about his phone calls with trump and pence as part of the justice department s investigation. it is unclear if ducey has been contacted by smith s office since meeting with the donor. investigators in the special counsel s office have asked witnesses about trump s calls with governors, including the one to ducey, according to two people familiar with the matter. if smith has spoken with ducey, or plans to in the future, that could lead to even more legal jeopardy for the ex-president, especially considering he likely faces another indictment out of georgia for that similar call with brad raffensperger you heard a moment ago. harry litman joins us now. the former deputy assistant general in the department of justice. danya perry served as deputy attorney general for new york state. philip bump is a columnist for the washington post where he has written extensively abou ....