knew exactly what he wanted, and that s pretty effective and can make it more difficult to prosecute someone who s clever criminally. now do you indict, though, how do you indict the trump org without indicting trump? explain that. well, is as has been famously noted since citizens united, a corporation is considered a person. so it has, it can be indicted like a person. and it will be treated somewhat like a person, although you can t incarcerate, incarcerate a corporation in the same way you can a person, weisselberg is clearing tied, deeply, with this corporation, and it s not one entity, though, it is multiple. there s something like five or 600 smaller entities that he operates through, so it will be also telling as to what or which corporations are indicted. and that will be very interesting.
brian: how would this work? if they don t come to an agreement. does ice get starvesd any way because no new money comes in. there they are so far to the left. they ought to just go home at this point. there is going to be no agreement. i think the president, i think he will either shut it down. is he going to declare an emergency because he knows what s going on. i have spoken to him. this is a nonstarter. i mean, i don t think if one republican on this committee agrees to this they ought to be fired. in 34 years i have done this job this is the worse by far that the democrats ever put on the table to stop enforce immigration law. one of the democrats last night said ice has to stop arresting law abiding immigrants and concentrate on criminals. first of all ice don t arrest law abiding immigrants. we arrest people here illegally. look at what ice did. they arrest our criminals. you can t incarcerate jails.
where the rye crime areas, they are trying these types of ideas. by the way, these things never work. these corroboration don t turn in their guns. steve: the buy back programs? yeah. the buy back programs don t work. what they do send up bringing in these guns that don t work. pete: criminals don t turn in their guns ultimately. the mayor says we can t incarcerate our way out of this situation. it doesn t sound like buy back programs have been effective either. not at all. the sad part about that is that comment that we can t incarcerate. you know, you are exactly right. don t put everybody in prison. but how about we actually do reforms societal reforms that keeps fathers in their homes and creates economic opportunity for some of these youngsters? steve: all right. kevin jackson today joining us from phoenix. kevin, have a good weekend. pete: appreciate it. steve: have a good weekend. do you. steve: a man is accused of posing as a decorated veteran. there he is right there.
we ve watched him in a rather public way in the presidency, that he s a hands-on guy. and everybody reports that that s the way he ran his business, that nothing slipped by him. they also say they ran it like a mafia don knowing how to give instructions where he didn t give instructions, but everybody knew exactly what he wanted, and that s pretty effective and can make it more difficult to prosecute someone who s clever criminally. how do you indict, though, how do you indict the trump org without indicting trump? explain that. well, as has been famously noted since citizens united, a corporation is considered a person. so it has it can be indicted like a person. and it will be treated somewhat like a person, although you can t incarcerate, incarcerate a corporation in the same way you can a person, weisselberg is clearly tied deeply with this