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Up is not necessarily something that would change vladimir putin s mind. i wonder, though, as the west does try to tighten its grip around not just the west, much of the world, tries to tighten its grip around russia financially, what sort of pressures might he be facing among those who are helping him stay in power, the oligarchs surrounding him? reporter: yeah. well, there are there is a well, yeah, there are the oligarchs, but then there is, frankly, the real inner circle, and that is really a handful of men, almost all former kgb, known him for decades. those are the people that really are in his ear, if you like. that being said, though, we did see a stunning moment earlier in the week where president putin, on television, basically took down, interrupted and told him to sit down, the chief of russia s foreign intelligence agency, the svr. ....
It. in the past hour, the woman who runs russia today has tweeted, i have my tissues ready to cry when they sanction me. that s the overt attitude. we talked yesterday, joe, about the potential impact of sanctions. the fact, frankly, that president putin tried to build an economic fortress. we have to be realistic about the someone earlier said president biden doesn t have the best hand. i think that is the case. i think sanctions do have limited impact. let me give you an example of why that might be. naryshkin, the head of president putin s foreign intelligence service, the svr, there s a lot of talk continuing here in moscow of something that happened at the security council, where president putin keep in mind, naryshkin is inside putin s inner circle, one of the few seen to be around him who can advise him. on national tv, president putin interrupted naryshkin and dismissed him, dismissed him to ....
Enchilada of all of ukraine or are the sanctions that we re now beginning to see appear going to have him slow down and stage here for a bit to see what the west s next reaction is going to be? what do you think the next step for putin is at this point? i think what he s doing right now is he s considering and he s looking and seeing what the pushback is from the west. i am very concerned about some of the reporting that we have seen about putin being sort of in a bubble. we saw a very interesting situation where he basically publicly embarrassed his chief of external intelligence, the svr, and to me that says he s doesn t have anybody who is telling him the truth, doesn t have anybody who is saying these are the pros and cons of what you re doing. what he s got is a bunch of people telling him what he wants to hear. if that s the case, we heard yesterday, he wants to absorb the entire country, that s a great concern. and garry kasparov said yesterday he thinks vladimir putin los ....
Successfully taken a major city. fur putin only talking to advisers and not the svr chief or sergey lavrov or the other people on the scene and isolated yourself then i think it s important for the international community to be prepared for putin to do irrational things and phenomenally important the united states maintain this force posture. i wanted to ask, i believe the bbc is a news organization that left moscow on friday when this new law passed and the new law i think made it a crime punishable by 15 years in prison to broadcast fake news which is defined by the kremlin anything that the kremlin didn t say is so. we are way down in the alice in ....
Is carry out his orders. the epitome of this, it was visual and putin wanted you to see it, was the famous meeting of the security council at which the members of the security council sat 50, 75 feet away from him and one after the other got up and paid their gave their agreement to this horrendous invasion until the head of the svr, the foreign intelligence bureaucracy, got up and he seemed to hesitate and stumble and putin humiliated him. this is something, again, out of the 30s but instead of it being secret and us hearing about it in the archives, we re watching it on television, just as putin meant us to see it. and that s a way to prove to the country that he s in charge, he s making all the decisions, there is no real advice, and i think, you know so that shows a kind of vulnerability because terrible decisions are made. i don t think putin wanted to end up in a situation where he ....