And because of that doing well and then i did not know how to give in or apply got a letter saying i had a scholarship because a Wonderful Group of women had given me a scholarship. Host how did you get connected with them . Guest i can remember. They probably heard about me through highschool someone said she can make it. Event then it was easy for me to excel and keep going then went on for graduate degrees. I went on to college but then i have come back and helped my own own people, the people who are my people, working class people so i feel like yeah i have had to give up somewhat who i was but now i can come back and i can help the people who are like me. But so were you treated with suspicion back home being the first to go to college . Is at the wrong word . Guest i think its a very prospective perspective word. I think that people like me who are kind of bookish poor workingclass kids people think shes a little bit different. You know shes not exactly like everybody else aroun
Frustration and people that are struggling and communities that are struggling violence. I dont have a good answer. It takes some dialogue. Do you want to weigh in . I have thought a little bit about that before in one beginning of an idea i came up with is things need to be tackled in preschool because in preschool, preschool is a time where kids have the fewest ideas coming into conceptions about the world. Its the ideal time to try and encourage empathy through the structure of preschool and my hope would be as soon as we go through preschool and become more empathetic individuals in that time of very Rapid Development they are going to go into Elementary School and eventually high school with a much more empathetic background and that will leave them much more in tuned to the issues that you brought up which is i think the first step. There are simply people recognizing their presence in being willing to talk about them. Anybody else want to weigh in before i answer back . It seems
[applause] questions . [inaudible] s James Taranto points out that the u. S. Supreme Court Decision that essentially outlawed the use of iq tests in lieu of College Degrees to permit people who are not College Graduates to get jobs that matched up with their iqs because in some way they were racially discriminatory i believe. I dont remember the name. It had disparate impact. Disparate impact case. It strikes me that when you speak of credentialing of some sort that is in a College Diploma you might encounter in people for example of taking on line courses and i noticed harvard is starting an on line Course Program very recently so this is moving in the ivies as well. He might nonetheless encounter some similar credentialing problem. What are your thoughts about back . I think its possible but i dont think its likely. I think as possible but dont think its likely for two reasons. I think iq tests have a very special place in American Social and political history and i think competency
That is much more intentional to help adults meet that developmental needs of children, it is important but anybody see in the wire on hbo . Great show. Maybe the best show ever. Truly. Lots of people say that but the reason i love that show there is lots of compelling characters but the primary character are the systems that are interacting in the city of baltimore and holding everybody prisoner the drug trade, public schools, and media, municipal government government, and police. We primarily see the way you can never hope to address education without paying attention to these other things. To the extent that we the people start to demand and hold elected officials more accountable to a systematic policy approach, we will be struggling for a while. That is the biggest thing to say as a final point but in that sense there is no short cuts. We cannot fix Public Education 11 added for willis and in poverty. We can fix Public Education with the biggest discrepancy since the gilded age w
Postcode tv is on the campus of Duke University in durham, North Carolina, where we are talking with professors and scholars about some of their book. Joining us here is Deborah Hicks. Her book, the road out the road out a teachers odyssey in poor america. What do you do here at duke first of all . Guest i have a couple of things that i do. I am part of a researching occult social Science Research institute and that is the unit composed of people doing research in the social science and disciplined and i do a lot of research. Im also a social entrepreneur, so i direct the nonprofit called page, partnership for appalachian girls education. And there i work with appalachian girls in middleschool and help them get Educational Opportunity and access. I have a couple different hats i wear at the university. A researcher in our social entrepreneur. Host social entrepreneur. Is that a new term . I think it was coined by nicholas kristof. It was a widely used term. People like you basically di