seen the house republican budget. they want to negotiate. i say i lay down my budget, you lay down, yours let s negotiate. i don t know where their budget is. with us for more, david plouffe, former obama campaign manager and senior adviser to the president. david, thanks for coming back on the show. where would we be right now if not for the aca? and where do you think republicans are hoping to take this country when it comes to health care? 11 years ago you said republicans would live tour grant calling it obamacare? well, yeah, let s remember, there s a lesson here, which is, democrats had 16 votes in the senate, hard to believe that was the case, and i was in washington there were a lot of democrats who basically wanted to give up on health care. past a very very reduce bill. remember, mehdi, the economy was still in terrible shape. we were covering from the financial crisis. the politics of this were not
more broad based prosperity. but we also should look at everywhere we can reduce costs, both in the system, and families. so on the both the coverage side and the cost sides, more work to be done. but fortunately right now, republicans are caught in a time machine. they don t want to talk about how to improve on health care systems. they basically want to attack it, and basically, you know, probably take coverage away from millions if not tens of millions of families. and not hold the special interests accountable. so washington is in gridlock in that regard. they ve continued to pass medicaid expansion, but there s a bunch that haven t. and so right now the politics of this or so broad that i don t think you re going to see that. but that shouldn t keep democrats from joe biden on the campaign trail saying exactly what they like to do to cover more people and do it in a more way. that s the key point. the fact is that there s gridlock should not stop democrats from describing thei
they want to negotiate. i say, i laid down my budget, you lay down yours, let s negotiate. i don t know where their budget is. with us for more, david plouffe, former obama campaign manager and senior adviser to the president. david, thanks for coming back on the show. where would we be right now if not for the aca? and where do you think republicans are hoping to take this country when it comes to health care? 11 years ago you said republicans were calling it obamacare? well, yeah, let s remember, there s a lesson here, which is, democrats had 16 votes in the senate, hard to believe that was the case, and i was in washington. there were a lot of democrats who basically wanted to give up on health care. pass a very very reduce bill. remember, mehdi, the economy was still in terrible shape. we were covering from the financial crisis. the politics of this were not great at the moment. but we had tried 400 years to pass this kind of legislation, and this isn t just about winning and m
work to be done. but fortunately right now, republicans are caught in a time machine. they don t want to talk about how to improve on health care systems. they basically want to attack it, and basically, you know, probably take coverage away from millions if not tens of millions of families. and not hold the special interests accountable. so washington is in gridlock in that regard. they ve continued to pass medicaid expansion, but there s a bunch that haven t. and so right now the politics of this or so broad that i don t think you re going to see that. but that shouldn t keep democrats from joe biden on the campaign trail saying exactly what they like to do to cover more people and do it in a more way. that s the key point. the fact is that there s gridlock should not stop democrats from describing their aspirations. you mentioned obama and pelosi doing what they could with the votes they had. it was a polarized time. a very polarized party. but you compare that to now, politico
him and he understands that. but he s got to basically seize every opportunity, and try to move the country forward with him. this is a guy that doesn t hold grudges, which is apparently unique in washington. yeah, if there s anyone to hold a grudge it would be kirsten sinema who marked who mocked senate democrats as old folks who eat jell-o, is of the republican party is? i m not sure about that. david plouffe, thank you for your analysis. we appreciate it. coming up, tiktok ceo testifies to a skeptical congress as lawmakers worry about national security and even make an outright ban on the popular app. when the 11th hour continues.