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Transcripts For MSNBC Andrea Mitchell Reports 20240709

let s hear the response to these charges from a reside owe show yesterday. i don t do illegal activities. i know where the lines are. according to this indictment, he did not go into the building so he was not charged with destruction of government property or press passing a as some of the lesser characters were. but this conspiracy that s alleged with all of this detail is extraordinary. if the allegations are true and can be proved, then he most certainly crossed the line and did not stay on the legal side of the law. i think he is maintained he did not enter the building and, therefore, he s not guilty of any crimes. but this charge does not require anyone to enter the building. it charges conspiracy, the elements of that are to degree with another person to oppose by force the execution of the laws. this this case, in the government s transition of presidential power, which is really a jaw-dropping charge, except for the fact that we all watched it unfold before

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Transcripts For MSNBC The Beat With Ari Melber 20240709

sedition charge. two, it s a key charge going up the line. three, it shows an open probe escalating, not winding down, which is possibly bad news for other insurrectionists and co-plotters yet to be charged. it s big news. i m going to try to walk through it with you right now. beginning with point one. sedition. sedition makes for a significance escalation in the doj s criminal probe. over a year in, today marks the first such charge in this probe. related to sedition, a felony of acting against the united states. i m going to explain it exactly, but i can tell you how serious it is. it carries alone up to 20 years in prison. this is farther than the doj has gone against any of those several hundred january 6th defendants charged to date, and it s one of the first moves to go in the probes to go up the line to the plotters and heavy hitters. so what is this? well, let s go to it. under the law, seditious conspiracy is when people conspire to overthrow by force the government

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Transcripts For MSNBC MSNBC Reports 20240707

power. water as well. we re going to get a live update on what he ll hear and see as well. also this morning, court is in session. it s the first day of the supreme court s nine-month term with justice ketanji brown jackson making history as its newest member. the history-making docket, the justices have teed up, after their last blockbuster term. opening statements are under way in a trial involving the oath keepers. their founder and other members are the first capitol attack defendants to be tried on seditious conspiracy charges. coming up, what it could mean for future cases against january 6th rioters. we want to start though with the aftermath of hurricane ian and our reporters on the ground in hard-hit lee county where serge and rescue operations are under way. we are now into day five of the search-and-rescue mission which is currently ongoing. you ve been on the ground for the last couple of days. speaking a lot over the weekend as well. still the devastation unfat

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Transcripts for MSNBC Morning Joe 20240604 11:17:00

Rarity to have seditious conspiracy charging convictions. talk sentencing. what could stewart rhodes face here? so rhodes and his top lieutenant kelly meggs also convicted of the lead charge, seditious conspiracy, are look the between 20 and 30 years. that s the statutory maximum. guidelines may be lower, though in a case like this. you know, the judge may actually feel compelled to go to the top of the guideline range. now, the other defendants who were also convicted of serious federal felonies, including trying to obstruct certification of joe biden s win, are facing more like 10 to 15 years but i really think it s the fact of the conviction, jonathan, that matters more than how many years or in rhodes and meggs case how many decades they may end up spending in prison. ryan, elise jordan here. what big cases are you watching now with january 6th defendants?

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Transcripts for MSNBC The Beat With Ari Melber 20240604 23:11:00

Criminal strategy to seize to day of orientation. i ll throw it back to you, but i ll say it again with the news tonight, you ve got people convicted of obstructing a official proceeding. the official proceeding was alerted to them by member of the u.s. government and the trump administration. michael? right, and so rhodes and kelly briggs, they re not benedict arnold here. they re larry and curly arnold. well, i d say somewhere in the middle, but i take your point. i know, i left moe out, sorry. but it s seriously just as you just said about the and the lesser charges of obstructing a proceeding a government proceeding, congress certifying the election of joe biden. obstructing that from happening. well, they weren t the only ones. and i don t mean just they and the people who charged the

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