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President is pushing in that ad that you played earlier today. the republican candidates in those races have asked the president basically to stay away. kate. all right, abby, thanks so much. joining me now to discuss this, and really the state of things, cnn senior political commentator, former republican senator from pennsylvania, rick santorum. and former democratic senator from indiana, evan bayh. thank you both for being here. senator santorum, as abby was just saying, sources are telling cnn that the point of this video, and probably maybe the point of this announcement, whatever his remarks that he s going to make this froonl, is to change the conversation. to change the argument on immigration from family unification to invasion. is that what republicans need right now, to change the conversation five days out from the election? well, look. both sides have their take on what this caravan is all about. i mean, you hear people on the left saying oh, these are women and chil ....
Now, it is noteworthy when you have folks like dana rohrabacher running ads on protecting pre-existing conditions. on the face of it, like, come on. there was never a big controversy around pre-existing conditions. most republicans even way back when supported providing protections for that. the reality is they did vote to straight out repeal. it was a political vote. they knew it wasn t going to pass. the president was never going to sign it. so it was a political vote. i think in retrospect, they might have thought more carefully about it instead of doing a straight repeal, but the reality is, democrats know this is not a controversial issue. i don t know of any republican for the last several cycles who is out there saying we shouldn t cover people with pre-existing conditions. they have the opportunity because republicans didn t get their act together and pass a bill to show what they were for. yeah. senator santorum, senator bayh, thank you both. i appreciate your time. than ....
Something, and i m hopeful that if republicans maintain control, they can pass something, but look, they have a huge vulnerability because they did not we re not prepared to take control and have a president to be able to pass a bill, and they didn t. now they re paying the price for it. senator bayh, you have republicans now running on protecting pre-existing conditions. some who voted for taking away those pre-existing conditions previously. if that s what they re running on and pledging now in these campaign ads, are they in some ways successfully taking away a key issue for democrats? that s their hope, kate. and again, in red states, it may work. what happens today, it s kind of ironic. rick is correct, obamacare was not perfect, but one of the good things in it for sure is the prohibition against taking people s health insurance away from them simply because they had cancer or heart disease or some other pre-existing condition. that didn t make them bad people. that meant t ....
Coming across from mexico, across the border. so trafficking in this sort of fear and these kind of issues really is nothing new. it s at the foundation of his political career. that s number one. number two, i think we need to separate the politics from the substance. some of us think that we should enforce the laws and enforce the border and we shouldn t have thousands of people in this caravan coming across into the united states, that we should have an orderly process. i happen to believe that, but i don t think we should exploit it cynically and divisively for political gain. i think it s wrong when the right uses s it, it s wrong wh the left uses classditions. we should expex more from our leaders, particularly our president, that a lot of people who traffic in spin and cynical politics. we don t expect our presidents to do that. senator bayh, on the issue of we can see from how the president has been talking that he seems very focused right now on the senate. ....
I will expect your commitment to continuing cooperation with us and with the mueller investigation in the future. i hope you will agree that it is critical that both of these investigations be permitted to proceed independently and completely towards their own conclusions without white house interference. gina, again congratulations on your nomination. and for your very important work on behalf of our country. thank you, mr. chairman. i yield back. it is now an honor to recognize two of our former colleagues. welcome to each of you and i will recognize senator chambliss and senator bayh. bill: this will go for about 10 minutes. there is a significant international story that is developing in realtime. we re just getting word that mike pompeo has landed in japan with his three freed americans. ....