coming across from mexico, across the border. so trafficking in this sort of fear and these kind of issues really is nothing new. it's at the foundation of his political career. that's number one. number two, i think we need to separate the politics from the substance. some of us think that we should enforce the laws and enforce the border and we shouldn't have thousands of people in this caravan coming across into the united states, that we should have an orderly process. i happen to believe that, but i don't think we should exploit it cynically and divisively for political gain. i think it's wrong when the right uses s it, it's wrong wh the left uses classditions. we should expex more from our leaders, particularly our president, that a lot of people who traffic in spin and cynical politics. we don't expect our presidents to do that. >> senator bayh, on the issue of -- we can see from how the president has been talking that he seems very focused right now on the senate.