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i m peter alexander sitting in along with mike barnicle in boston. joining us here at the table, pat buchanan, jonathan capehart and ed rendell back at the table. nice to see you. visiting professor at nyu, gerald ford jr. we are going to go into the 2012 race coming up. who is the most likely alternative to mitt romney and who has the best chance to beat president obama. a look at the war in afghanistan. now the longest war. how do we get out? does obama s policy differ from president bush s and what is the effect for generations to come? joe and mika and willie join in the conversation later this hour. we begin with the debt crisis. they are trying to make a deal on the deficit. houses of congress are rolling out separate compromises to safe off a default. harry reid is meeting with mitch mcconnell to craft a solution to appeal to both parties. according to reports, this would do the following. it would allow the debt ceiling to be raised three times for a total of $2 ....
and ed rendell back at the table. nice to see you. visiting professor at nyu, gerald ford jr. we are going to go into the 2012 race coming up. who is the most likely alternative to mitt romney and who has the best chance to beat president obama. a look at the war in afghanistan. now the longest war. how do we get out? does obama s policy differ from president bush s and what is the effect for generations to come? joe and mika and willie join in the conversation later this hour. we begin with the debt crisis. they are trying to make a deal on the deficit. houses of congress are rolling out separate compromises to safe off a default. harry reid is meeting with mitch mcconnell to craft a solution to appeal to both parties. according to reports, this would do the following. it would allow the debt ceiling to be raised three times for a total of $2.5 trillion. in exchange, some $1.5 trillion in spending cuts would be enacted. the plan would be established to identify new def ....
california voters supported proposition 8 is irrelevant. as fundamental rights may not be submitted to a vote. tradition alone cannot support legislation. the prop 8 campaign was based on a desire to advance the belief that opposite sex couples are morally superior to same-sex couples. both sides said they planned to appeal judge walker s ruling so it s likely this will go to the ninth circuit court of appeals and then on to the supreme court of the united states. whether to allow same-sex marriages to continue in the meantime with the potential they could be reversed is a tough call. in this ping pong battle over same-sex marriages, to have a set of legal rights one day and nah family and to have the rights taken away the next day and given back the next day and taken away again is very unstable. that s the kind of instability the law cannot tolerate. reporter: so a big day here at the federal court building in san francisco. judge vaughn walker overturns propositi ....
reporter: officer tshamba refused a breathalyzer. his lawyer qulaims claims he feared for his life and was trying to protect someone from a sexual assault. 13 shots were fired into this victim. and that s not even in our training. we feel confident that this is a murder case. reporter: it was ruled justified. but tshamba was disciplined because he was drinking. his blood alcohol level was above the legal limit. if the first time something would have been done, it wouldn t have happened again. and i sure hope that something is done this time so it doesn t happen again. reporter: officer tshamba was very well dressed, wore a nice suit in court today. he was very calm and had lots of friends and family there to support him. reporting live in courthouse east, mike hellgren, wjz eyewitness news. the latest on a civil suit that the brown family is filing against the officer and the city. crews in howard county are working tonight to detonate several explosives ....
we re getting such strong thunderstorms moving our way. because there s a lot of fuel for the thunderstorms to work with. we can get damaging winds, maybe even hate. and a lot hail. and a lot of rain. then again, tomorrow, we have the chance once again. we ll have the forecast coming up shortly. back inside. our other top story tonight. a family is mourning the loss of their siberian husky dog. police say an off-duty federal officer shot and killed a dog at a park in anne arundel county. wjz is live. gigi barnett has more on the calls for a complete investigation. gigi? reporter: detectives have more questions than answers right now at this point. the most pressing, why would that off-duty officer use his gun to break up an alleged dog fight? and he cearcht be re can t be replaced. he s our baby. reporter: they are missing their dog. it s blocks away from their home in severn, anne arundel county. and the alleged shooter is a federal police officer. you jus ....