at that be? we ve still got three very important pieces to finish. we finished the election kurt. we don t the assessment on more work to to administration. we ve got to make sure that we give a more conclusive report on social media, as well as some policy outlines or with prp i collusion. you say reserving judgment on that. because we are a year into the mueller investigation right now. you talked to republicans, you talk to white house and they say that have no eye it nrn. if there was not more to be investigated and more facts to
were to testify in front of bob mueller? untruthfulness and the possible charge of lying to a federal investigator. at the end of the day is it a perjury trap or not? from my perspective, the president shouldn t go anywhere near this group. reporter: the tangled tale of russian interference may have started in a london bar in the spring of 20 ken when george papadopoulos a young promoter named to the trump team told moscow had dirt on clinton. papadopoulos was the coffee boy. he was and always will be. reporter: now after pleading guilty to lying to the fbi as are at least three others. when the fbi walks in the room, they re not asking you questions half the time because they want to know the answer. they re asking questions because they want to see what you will say. did you meet with john doe last week, no? well, they got your e-mail. you did. now they know, a, you are not telling the truth. b, they know they have a hammer on you. you just lied to a federal officer. re
of your lawful powers. right. those are crimes. but what we re having robert mueller trying to figure out what was the president of the united states state of mind when he fired james comey, he has a perfect right to do. look, at the end of the day, it s so funny because it is incredibly politicized. but the thing, republicans are running this investigation. robert mueller is a republican. deputy ag a republican. a political appointee of donald trump. we can go down the line. it s amaze, it s being called a witch punt even when you have the gop-led senate intel committee finally coming out seeing, hey, you know what, there is truth to what the intelligence committee said, russia did med him. even though donald trump is dissecting that crazy tweets he always puts out is it is not a witch hunt. it s his own political appointee republicans that are leading this and investigating this.
wants to testify. we don t know for a fact. he says he wants. he wants us to think. the other point he is making is this is a terrible and unfair investigation. this fantasy. this absurdity that the fbi planted a spy in the trump campaign. not said in the new york times article. not true. but you know it gets into the fox biosphere and repeated and it becomes something to talk about. so, all of that leads to putting the mueller investigation on the defensive that they have something to defend themselves about rather than the president deciding whether he wants to testify. i m glad we have you here on one specific point as jeffrey alluded to, the president in one of the statements today said this is bigger than watergate. what he was talking about is the investigation, itself. the investigation, itself, is so scandalous it s bigger than watergate. it happens you know something about watergate. i was wondering what your take is. watergate was about a criminal president richard
process in which the key determining factor is virtually nothing robert mueller find is going to sway the republican donald trump base away from him. they have managed to so discredit this investigation. despite the fact mueller is the most bipartisan prudential guy. trump won politically. you can t impeach him without a significant number of republican votes in the senate and he has held that base and so on a sheer political term, i would say it s been okay for now. respond to that. perjury is a crime. lying under oath is a crime. this is one reason i think it would be a mistake for the president to go under oath and talk to robert mueller. give it a chance. for the lawful exercise via power is not a crime. itco you would be an abuse of power. if you are bribeing witness, perjury, those are not exercises