president aga in 2012, we asked them who they thought w to blame for the way things are today. seven years after the auto-bailout that saved detroit and that was supposed to help steel towns like lorain. nafta and other free trade deals, but tim blake, a third generation steel worker,orced to retire from republic steel after 35 years, said the slide began well before the 1994 trade pact with mexico and canada. i wrote a song in 1982, and i recently just put it back out there, and 34 years later, exactly the same thing happened. well they re shutting down our factories bringing steel from overseas, turn their back on this hard working town you know, when we were working in the middle of clinton, president clinton was offic gs were working. and so we would support him even though you may not agree with
is ready for a clarion call to reject government essentially. get rid of the tsa. no tsa, no irs no health care. they really believe that. i give them credit for believing it, but i do they want to get on a plane with nobody checking them? of course not. and they don t want to abolish the irs ooit per. you said they really believe it. which is it? i think they really do believe it, but the problem they ve got is that philosophy, which they re also pursuing in the u.s. senate under mitch mcconnell where they re rejecting all action on everything is not the kind of method that you need to win a presidential election, i don t think. i think there is a degree of hucksterism here. give me an example. i can think of one right now. ted cruz getting rid of the irs means to some people no more taxes. but also the whole point, liberty is under siege in this country, that barack obama is totally incompetent. the guy who got osama bin laden, the guy who saved detroit. all
country, that barack obama is totally incompetent. the guy who got osama bin laden, the guy who saved detroit. all this stuff. newt gingrich who claims to be an historian has to understand if he says he s a if he s as smart as he says he is, that barack obama has achieved a few big thing, yet he gets up there with a straight face and says the guy is a dufus. he has to know better, but it doesn t matter. i ll grant you that maybe newt knows better, i m not sure. and who knows about donald truch. you want to talk about huksterrism, there it is. but i do think the others, i do think that ted cruz and rand paul and mike huckabee very much have he ll cross the border for sex, by the way. only donald trump can say something like that. he also goes to the dirty part of the mind. casey said that rand paul had the most enthusiastic response
good jobs. steve: so the union saved the autoindustry . stewart varny said facts show. who was it. that statement was nonsense. that was sheer nonsense. the unions did not save detroit, taxpayers put in $60 billion . have their pension and health fund bailed out and the unions had a piece of detroit dirt cheap and bond holders were virtually destroyed and stock holders destroyed and the taxpayer has not got their money back. gretchen: and businesses that were privately owned were taken away. the unions got the long end of the stick. it is it a absolute myth to suggest that the unions saved detroit. it is the other way around. the taxpayer saved detroit, and still the taxpayer hasn t
got their money back. we are 20 billion in the hold to general motors and 12 billion in what used to be called gmac and now allied financial and billion and half to chrisler and not yet paid back. steve: we had a bunch of gm stock. if you had gm stock or chrysler before the bailout your stock value went to zero. 92 and gm was declared bankrupt. stock holder didn t appeared and in the court stock hold ares got a real hair cut. the union won and the bond holders lost. it is it a title myth the idea that unions saved detroit. brian: what about the union workers who say those who are not in the union are free rider will benefit from their bargaining power with the car companies, for example. look the right to work is