transcripts of rudy is fbi interviews in which his partner says there is no obligation to tell the truth. and that rudy said it s okay to throw a fake, as he put, it and make up as he apparently did. information on hillary clinton. the fbi they were giving him during the trump campaign. the fbi was surprised to learn that their agents were linking to rudy. they weren t. it was just rudy making it all up. rudy isn t hung up on the truth and it made us wonder about the viability of the big lie. it is not a great look, any of it for a lawyer, especially a former u.s. attorney. this wasn t a great look either. come to think of it. but that s all behind him now that he s in the business of customized, personal greetings. so he s got that going for him. that s our broadcast for this wednesday night, with our thanks for being here with us on behalf of all of my colleagues at the networks of nbc news, goodnight.
partners are quoted as saying, there is no obligation to tell the truth in a presidential campaign and rudy said it is okay to throw a fake, as he put it, and make up as he apparently did, information on hillary clinton. he said the fbi agents were giving him during the trump campaign. fbi was understandably surprised to learn their agents were leaking to rudy. they were not. it was just rudy making it all up. rudy isn t hung up on the truth and it made us wonder about the viability of the big lie. it is not a great look, any of it, for a lawyer. specially a former u.s. attorney. this wasn t a great look either, come to think of it. but that s all behind him now that he s in the business of customized personal greetings. so he has that going for him. that s our broadcast this wednesday night. our thanks for being here. on behalf of all my colleagues at nbc news, good night.
it s an open race. they can only tell you today. they can t tell you what a campaign s going to do. to a degree, you can trust the average of polls and if she s dropping big double digit numbers across an average of polling, that means something. i think it s interesting when it s tied to a certain policy. as opposed to just horse race. the thing about polls is these republic polls when campaign operatives. we look at where you can go get votes. we use polling differently. so that s and we make decisions based on microtarget. that s how we make our decisions. so when you see national polls, they really are just a snap shot. they don t tell you where you re going. if you were warren s campaign and you re microtargeting, what would you be doing? i don t know what their data says. i can t tell you. i haven t read a warren poll. would you be going out to universities and to i would be target over and over young people, young people, young people. doing what she
this ukrainian prosecutor, yuriy lutsenko about conducting biden-related investigations, investigations of interest to president trump. rudy was kind of trying to negotiate his own business deal with this prosecutor. the various drafts of a proposed deal would have this prosecutor pay rudy giuliani several $100,000 to help this prosecutor with kind of an asset recovery mission he wanted to conduct. he believed that ukrainian assets had been stolen. and he wanted rudy giuliani s help with the u.s. justice department. getting the u.s. justice department to help him out. so they negotiated back and forth. while talking about the biden investigations. ultimately, they never actually execute a contract and rudy isn t paid. but this kind of deepens questions for him, you know. would he have been working for a foreign government at the same time he s working for the president of the united states? that would be a weird conflict. definitely, unethical for a government employee and it
in ukraine on your behalf? well, you have to ask that to rudy. but rudy, i don t even know. i know he was going to go to ukraine and i think he cancelled the trip. but, you know, rudy has other clients other than me. i m one person. the president s claims you just heard are, frankly, ludicrous. he suggests he did not know what was happening with giuliani in ukraine. even though he told ukrainian president zelensky in that infamous july call that rudy very much knows what s happening. if you could speak with him, that would be great. i will have mr. giuliani give you a call. i will tell rudy and attorney general barr to call. the president s claim that he didn t know what giuliani was doing in ukraine is contradicted by the sworn testimony of his own envoys to ukraine. as a presidential appointee, i followed the directions of the president. we worked with mr. giuliani because the president directed