of his constitutional role and simply declare that certain states electoral college votes wouldn t be accepted. so, i would want to ask him about all of that. what was the grand theory of how they were going to overturn the election in the final analysis? and what was the interaction contemplated between the violent insurrection, the unleashing of the extremist groups against us with the inside political coup, the attempt to put the oppressor on pence and to put a rabbit out of the hat in terms of the machinations of the electoral college. it s incredible when you lay it all out. congressman raskin, appreciate it. coming up next, the latest on the smoke, where it s coming from, how to stay safe, and when it might lift. also a conversation with amanda gorman, about how she and other authors are facing off with people who have never read the book they want removed. tourists photographing thousands of mileses
desantis desantis said about abortion. he didn t give an answer about would you have signed the heartbeat law that florida did. that had all the exceptions that people talk about? i disagree with president trump about the heartbeat bill. certainly support what florida passed. how is this going to affect 2024 and where voters come down on donald trump, on pence, desantis, any of the candidates weighing in on this? yeah. obviously pro-life activists and voertz play a huge role in determining republican primaries. whether it is for president or dog catcher. they vote and really do matter to the party. number one. number two, trump has his record of pinappointing pro-life judge. he s squirrely whether he comes down in a post roe world. you see desantis and pence leaning in into the post roe
take that one step further. what answers about those conversations might be problematic for donald trump? mike pence is a crucial witness here. as a prosecutor, you absolutely have to have his testimony, for better or worse. and this is why prosecutors are going to go into the courts and fight and win to get is that testimony. i would exactly focus on what andy pointed out, especially the one-on-one conversations between mike pence and donald trump. let s keep in mind that there are no other witnesses to these donald trump is not going to go to the grand jury. so, it s really all on pence s own recollection and testimony about it. i do have questions about, frankly, how forthcoming he we ll be. there s no tape of these conversations that we know of to keep him in check. and if we look at his public stance about donald trump and january 6th, pence s not been willing to forcefully condemn donald trump. he s given us this wishy-washy stuff that we don t see eye to eye. so i think as