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bill: it gets a little complicated congressman, it gets a little complicated when state workers make more in benefits and salary than their peers in the private sector. and that s where we are right now that the state guys and gals make more money and the states are saying we can t afford to pay them. now in new york state where you and i live, congressman rangle, we have pretty much the highest tax burden in the nation. a democratic governor cuomo is going to take a saw to these benefits in the state worker program. are you going to support governor cuomo, congressman rangle? you know, if this is just a question of the budget and sharing the sacrifice, i would not be as concerned about what is happening in wisconsin as i am now. i truly believe, unlike new york, that in wisconsin there is a move to try to destroy the union and, therefore, the standards in which nonunion people enjoy have been negotiated through collective ....
Bargainings with management. bill: let s assume that s true. explain to the people watching in texas and florida and other right-to-work states why their lives are not as good as the lives of those people in wisconsin and illinois. i m saying the people down there really enjoy the benefits that s been negotiated northeast and western states because they have said a standard. people kind of forget. bill: what? that s right. bill: they said we don t want you. in our collective bargaining deal. yeah, buffer i m talking about having a 40-hour week, having vacations, having sick leave and all these things. they never even thought about doing these things. even child labor is one of those things. you are not going to legislate like wisconsin wants to do. what you are going to do is negotiate. bill: the fact of the matter is congressman gutierrez, that your state is losing people. ....
Tamed. the alternative is higher taxes. until the middle class is picked clean and the u.s. economy is no longer competitive, unquote. talking points believes that s basically true that union wages and benefits have now reached the point where governments can t afford to operate and even some private concerns can t make a profit. right now there are 22 right-to-work states in america. places like texas and florida where the unions do not control the negotiating process. the fair thing to do in wisconsin would be to have a referendum, let the folks vote on union power. on a personal note, i m a member of a union aftra. when i was working at inside edition the king world company tried to renegative on pension benefits after it took the company to court, the case was settled. if the shop it been nonunion, we might have been certified. i understand why unions are needed in america. workers must have protection against greedy companies that would exploit them. but there has to be a middle g ....
Worker entitlements in greece, ireland, and spain have just been ruined those economies. the democratic party doesn t seem to understand that. but now i believe most americans do. and that s the memo. now for the top story tonight, reaction. joining us from washington, two democratic congressman charles rangle from new york and luis gutierrez who represents a district in illinois. congressman gutierrez, we will begin with you. the neighbors in wisconsin, your neighboring state, will have to give back some of their benefits. that is going to happen, do you agree? here is what i agree. i think we all need to share in the restructuring of the budget. and that workers should not be called upon because i think you would agree, bill, that it is a tax on the workers when they have to give back health care benefits, when they have to give back wages. who else is sharing this burden? the burden should belong to everyone, and we shouldn t just focus it on the workers. ....
Many countries and iran is blaming it all on the u.s.a. we ll have analysis. both beck and i are, what? limited in our internet skills? would that be accurate? no, i m a computer programmer. bill: glenn beck says google may be a threat to the world. beck has some interesting data to back it up. google has been reading all my emails. bill: caution, you are about to enter the no spin zone, the factor begins right now. bill: hi, i m bill o reilly. thanks for watching us tonight. high noon for the democratic party in wisconsin. that is the subject of this evening s talking points memo. the stakes are huge for the dems in wisconsin right now. thousands of state workers are furious that governor scott walker is asking for give backs in benefits. also wants to cripple labor unions from negotiating in that state. workers have walked off the job and many schools are shut down. ....