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Department told him not to. but sondland now intends to comply with the house subpoena and a key part of his testimony will be about text messages from september that he exchanged with the acting ambassador to ukraine bill taylor. in one exchange if you remember this, taylor texted sondland about the administration withholding millions of dollars of military aid in an apparent attempt to get ukraine to investigate joe and hunter biden. taylor writes, quote, as i said on the phone i think it s crazy to withhold security assistance for help with a political campaign. several hours later, five hours later, almost five hours, anyway, sondland responds with this. bill, i believe you are incorrect about president trump s intentions. the president has been crystal clear no quid pro quos of any kind. now a source familiar with sondland s upcoming testimony tells nbc news that he plans to tell lawmakers that he sent that message after a phone conversation with president trump himself and that h ....
I feel pressure when i talk to your foreign minister. he pressures me all the time. it s totally appropriate. right? isn t that right? yeah, it s totally right. go ahead and say it. you can admit it. it s okay. it s completely right. nations do this. nations work together and they say, boy, goodness gracious. if you can help me with x, we ll help you achieve y. this is what partnerships do. it s win/win. no, that s not true. the folks at trump world seem to be at odds about quid pro quos. secretary of state saying it s totally appropriate whereas donald trump denies any quid pro quo. and now breaking overnight, we have a washington post reporting that gordon sondland, the u.s. ambassador to the eu will testify to congress on thursday that he worked with rudy giuliani to get ukraine to ....
Foreign people looking at us, they honestly think we re nuts. there you have presidents saying nothing was wrong, the president of the country. that s in question. but nancy pelosi said, well, that s what he said, isn t it? but she was angry as hell when she got to read the transcript. because she said, wait a minute, that s not what i was told. but she was stuck. she was stuck. but think of a guy who makes up a phone call, makes up my words, viciously says eight quid pro quos. you got to do this or we re not going to do that. and there were none, none. they couldn t believe it when i released that call, i would have loved to have seen their faces. he goes before the united states congress and before the american public and he makes up the story of what i said, made it horrible ....
Idea is that they re going to do this kind of on their own, then that s how she s going to do it. and it s going to allow the republicans to make this process argument but it s not an argument on the merits. i think that s maybe the calculation the democrats are making, particularly if more shoes drop. eric: next week, gordon sunland, he is expected to testify, basically in violation of the state department s request and of course a lot of attention goes on that text t. let me read it to you, in which ambassador bill taylor raised questions about the supposed holding of aid versus the investigations. taylor wrote, as i said on the phone, i think it s crazy to withhold security assistance for help with the political campaign. sunland hours later responded saying bill, i believe you re incorrect about president trump s intentions. the president has been crystal clear, no quid pro quos of any kind. the president is trying to evaluate whether ukraine is ....
They honestly think we re nuts. there you have presidents saying nothing was wrong, the president of the country. that s in question. but nancy pelosi said, well, that s what he said, isn t it? but she was angry as hell when she got to read the transcript. because she said, wait a minute, that s not what i was told. but she was stuck. she was stuck. but think of a guy who makes up a phone call, makes up my words, viciously says eight quid pro quos. you got to do this or we re not going to do that. and there were none, none. they couldn t believe it when i released that call, i would have loved to have seen their faces. he goes before the united states congress and before the american public and he makes up the story of what i said, made it horrible ....