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washington post. he said, i believe you have been correct about the president s intentions. no quid pro quos of any kind. the washington post reports r someone plans to tell lawmakers he has no knowledge of whether the president was telling him the truth at that moment. it s only true that the president said it, not that it was the truth. leading off our discussion tonight, our henchman. also emily vargas, secretary of defense in the obama administration. she s msnbc national security analyst. and national political reporter for nbc news. josh is the reporter that broke the news tonight we began this discussion with. and josh, because of that breaking news you revealed to us ....
that was just tonight. this week s other star witness will be the u.s. ambassador to the european union. his name is gordon sondland. he is a political appointee and a trump donor. he appears on thursday on the hill. he was the guy who responded to concerns about trump s scheme in ukraine with that text message, quote, the president has been crystal clear. no quid pro quos of any kind. trump even pointed to that text as evidence of his exoneration. the text message that i saw from ambassador sondland, who is highly respected, was there s no quid pro quo. he said that. he said, by the way, it almost sounded like in general. by the way, there s no quid pro quo. and there isn t. there is no pro quo. that was the text message i saw, and that nullified everything. almost sounded like a general. the washington post reports ....
This. this at the same time members of congress are now headed back to washington after getting an earful from their constituents. reporter: even with president trump vowing to stonewall the impeachment inquiry i never thought i d see or hear that word with regard to me. impeachment. reporter: some past and present members of his administration are planning to appear before congress. this morning former white house official fiona hill is expected to testify behind closed doors. after reporter: in one text exchange, bill taylor writing, i think it s crazy to withhold security assistance for help with a political campaign. sondland replying over four hours later, i believe you are incorrect about president trump s intentions. the president has been crystal clear. no quid pro quos of any kind. according to tell congress the phrase no quid pro quo came directly from president trump in a phone call. ....
Lawmakers this week. gordon sondland is expected to reveal trump dictated his response to u.s. diplomat bill taylor. taylor said as i said on the phone, i think it s kra ez to withhold security assistance for when e help with a political campaign. sondland, a trump appointee, bill, i think you are incorrect. the president has been crystal clear, no quid pro quos of any kind. now, quid pro quos of any kind. none. this is really important. apparently these words were dictated by president trump to ambassador sondland. this revelation shatters what has been president trump s defense. the text message that i saw from ambassador sondland, who is highly respected, was there is no quid pro quo. he said that. he said, by the way, it s almost ....
And it is now clear from the information that sondland has made available about his testimony on thursday that he had talked to the president in that intervening five hours, and they apparently developed the response, which is what i would call the ultimate cya response. well, congressman, let s show the audience what you re talking about. this was an exchange between bill taylor and the eu ambassador, gordon sondland. taylor writes, as i said on the phone, i think it s crazy to withhold security assistance for help with a political campaign. five hours later, as you noted, sondland responded, saying, bill, that s taylor, i believe you are incorrect about president trump s intentions. the president has been clear, no quid pro quos of any kind outside. we know that sondland spoke with the president in those five hours, and now, according to the washington post, he is going to say tomorrow in his testimony ....