and pope benedict gave that retreat and this is the man. [ speaking latin ] i think if you were picking a quiz bowl team in the college of cardinals ravasi is the guy you want it. he s the best read cardinals you ll find. he quoted amy winehouse music. the cardinal ravasi coughs up literal illusions, naturally and without thinking about it. what does that mean when someone of gee ravasi station qs someone like amy winehouse? what does it mean. he wanted to make sure he knew that the youth were listening to so he could understand the culture. he s ministering to the culture.