and pope benedict gave that retreat and this is the man. [ speaking latin ] >> i think if you were picking a quiz bowl team in the college of cardinals ravasi is the guy you want it. he's the best read cardinals you'll find. >> he quoted amy winehouse music. >> the cardinal ravasi coughs up literal illusions, naturally and without thinking about it. >> what does that mean when someone of gee ravasi station qs someone like amy winehouse? what does it mean. >> he wanted to make sure he knew that the youth were listening to so he could understand the culture. he's ministering to the culture.