Picket line with the United Auto Workers in wayne, michigan. Telling them that they deserve better. Deserve the significant raise you need and other benefits. Lets get it yeah step up for us. Wall street didnt know, the middle class built the country. Unions built the middle class. Thats a fact. So lets keep going. You deserve what youve earned and youve earned a lot more than youre getting paid. That right there, the giant boost for unionized labor and acknowledged the system is out of whack and that workers are just as entitled to success. Done by a man holding the most powerful position in our government. Also though, a man who needs a big boost himself. Because whats good for the gander here is also potentially quite good for the goose. Joining me now to explain, gabe gutierrez. Nbc news correspondent, gray jay, cnbc correspondent covering the auto industry, phil lebeau. All three are in wayne, michigan. We also have peter baker with us. Gabe, im going to begin with you. Were here
that, because you were, frankly, quite secretive about it. yeah, i mean, at the time, honestly, i was very honest with all the people that are in my life about my sexuality, if that s what you re asking. but in terms of questioning my hiv status, i was very concerned, and that s not something that you share on tv, or certainly not in 1985, stephen. we re talking about a really very different time than it is now. mmm. and so, for me, it was really, you know, about more of a privacy thing. i mean, when i did speak publicly about my sexuality, i was very happy to do so and i was one of the first of my generation, and certainly in my field, at the time to do so. i mean, we had eltonjohn, who i love and will always love, we had kd lang and we had boy george, and that was about it. it was some years on, after i spoke publicly about my sexuality, that george michael and ellen degeneres, and all these other people.
a really very different time than it is now. mmm. and so, for me, it was really, you know, about more of a privacy thing. i mean, when i did speak publicly about my sexuality, i was very happy to do so and i was one of the first of my generation, and certainly in my field, at the time to do so. i mean, we had eltonjohn, who i love and will always love, we had kd lang and we had boy george, and that was about it. it was some years on, after i spoke publicly about my sexuality, that george michael and ellen degeneres, and all these other people. that s right, yeah. i think what you were very brave about was talking about mental health and, indeed, about physical health, too, because i think you described how in that mid 80s period, when you were really stricken with fear and you were not feeling good
secretive about it. yeah, i mean, at the time, honestly, i was very honest with all the people that are in my life about my sexuality, if that s what you re asking. but in terms of questioning my hiv status, i was very concerned, and that s not something that you share on tv, or certainly not in 1985, stephen. we re talking about a really very different time than it is now. mmm. and so, for me, it was really, you know, about more of a privacy thing. i mean, when i did speak publicly about my sexuality, i was very happy to do so and i was one of the first of my generation, and certainly in my field, at the time to do so. i mean, we had eltonjohn, who i love and will always love, we had kd lang and we had boy george, and that was about it. it was some years on, after i spoke publicly about my sexuality, that george michael and ellen degeneres, and all these other people. that s right, yeah.
and that your whole, sort of, life might unravel. we didn t know you were living that, cos you were, frankly, quite secretive about it. yeah, i mean, at the time, honestly, i was very honest with all the people that are in my life about my sexuality, if that s what you re asking. but in terms of questioning my hiv status, i was very concerned, and that s not something that you share on tv, or certainly not in 1985, stephen. we re talking about a really very different time than it is now. mmm. and so, for me, it was really, you know, about more of a privacy thing. i mean, when i did speak publicly about my sexuality, i was very happy to do so and i was one of the first of my generation, and certainly in my field, at the time to do so. i mean, we had eltonjohn, who i love and will always love, we had kd lang and we had boy george, and that was about it. it was some years on, after i spoke publicly about my sexuality,