michigan, these women brought to life what they lived through for the defendants, for the court, and for the nation. i mean, really, the legacy of what they have done here is change how our nation treats and views sexual abuse survivors, especially children. having the survivors be at the center of that is so key to people really understanding what they ve been through. tasha, to go back to this as a bigger picture, i know in 2017 when you bravely first told your story, you said that steve b penny, then the president of usa gymnastics at the time, asked you to put out a positive statement about the organization. of course, we now know he later left with a huge severance package. he waited weeks to notify the fbi about the allegations, and the case is still pending.
jean, let s begin with this fbi part of all of this. what are you learning? reporter: you know, it s interesting. to go along with the new york times reporting, it is strikingly similar to cnn s reporting. earlier this year, i interviewed gina nickels, as well as her husband, dr. john nickels, in record to their daughter, maddie nickels, who was virtually the whistleblower in the nassar scandal. she was the one that had told her teammates at the karolyi ranch what nassar was doing to her. what happened was that steve penny, then president of usa gymnastics, called gina nickels to say that, don t say anything to anyone, but we re going to go to law enforcement. listen to dr. john nickels. he was privy to that conversation. well, the way it was presented to me was, he penny gave the message that he s contacting the fbi and the fbi is undergoing this