jean, let's begin with this fbi part of all of this. what are you learning? >> reporter: you know, it's interesting. to go along with the "new york times" reporting, it is strikingly similar to cnn's reporting. earlier this year, i interviewed gina nickels, as well as her husband, dr. john nickels, in record to their daughter, maddie nickels, who was virtually the whistleblower in the nassar scandal. she was the one that had told her teammates at the karolyi ranch what nassar was doing to her. what happened was that steve penny, then president of usa gymnastics, called gina nickels to say that, don't say anything to anyone, but we're going to go to law enforcement. listen to dr. john nickels. he was privy to that conversation. >> well, the way it was presented to me was, he -- penny gave the message that he's contacting the fbi and the fbi is undergoing this