and showing no signs of returning to work, those benefits would be stopped if they didn t take part in some workplace return to the workplace scheme. i m nowjoined by thomas lawson, chief executive of a benefits charity of the thank you for being here for the what did you make of that decision? to stop benefits from those who are not trying to get actively back into work? ., , ., ., , trying to get actively back into work? .,, ., .,, .,, work? crop that was the most concerning work? crop that was the most concerning thing work? crop that was the most concerning thing my - work? crop that was the most. concerning thing my colleagues work? crop that was the most - concerning thing my colleagues heard today to stop what is it really means to completely stop someone but benefits after they have been through a period of perhaps two years try to get into work? chances are there are real issue stopping from working for the it s interesting to hear the conservatives talk about co
same thing we could say about detroit. detroiters are in this great e dyasper all over the country. new orleans must be there because that s our we are the port city. right? it matters that we exist in that space. similarly i think we have to ask what is it about detroit that becomes the kwiquintessential tg beyond the romanticism of detroit and brings people back into those houses. and that we do that rebuilding in a way that s just. the other struggle that continues in new orleans is that even as this rebuilding occurs, it doesn t always occur in ways that are just and equitable. today detroit is 82% black. in 1950, it was 82% white. i want to ask you about the pension question. half of that $18 billion in debt is pensions. usa today contends that the