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Detailed text transcripts for TV channel - MSNBC - 20150531:01:13:00

Victor. all i can think, stay with victor. stay with victor. if anyone is going to sort this out, victor is going to sort it out. victor kept his calm, and he walked directly to the chief s home. obviously they wanted to hear from us what we were doing there and what we were planning. victor negotiated with the tribe. the next day, victor negotiated guides for us. the plan was for the guides to take us as far as paya, which was the last panamanian village. inside days we would be inside colombia. i certainly didn t think we put the most difficult part of the ....

Victor Didn T , Cross Into Colombia , Panamanian Village ,

Detailed text transcripts for TV channel - MSNBC - 20150531:01:33:00

They wanted to see our maps. and they had some questions about paya and who was there and what was there. they decided that they were going into panama for themselves, but they needed a guide to retrace our steps. what did he say? he says they want to take victor with them to panama. there was a brief argument. tell them there is no reason to take him to panama. we were pretty emphatic about it. but victor didn t really say much of anything on his behalf. i think at that point he realized that things were beyond his control. [ speaking spanish ] i mean, we really pleaded with them, but they assured us. they said it s not to worry. we re just going to secure the area. a situation that i put myself in, decision after decision led me to this point of running into the farc. this is almost exactly what i ....

Brief Argument , Victor Didn T , Decision Led ,

Detailed text transcripts for TV channel - MSNBC - 20150531:01:15:00

You literally have six to eight ounces of water stored in the tree. it was like a tremendous relief. we hiked all afternoon, and that afternoon we arrived in paya. coming into paya was much different than pucuro because they were expecting us. we made it to the last stop before you cross the border into colombia. that evening, we attended this tribal meeting. i can remember there is a group of young men kind of dancing in circles, playing their music, enjoying themselves. we ate fish and then rice and some bush meat, iguana. you eat what is served. and it was good. it was good. ....

Cross Into Colombia , Dancing In Circles , Bush Meat ,

Detailed text transcripts for TV channel - MSNBC - 20150531:01:17:00

Close to colombia. we were probably about a day or day and a half from the border. paya was our last village, and then beyond that, the really serious part began. hiking through the jungle is what you would expect. everything is sharp and pointy or trying to eat you. i had a compass, but you can t just pick a direction and walk east there is ravines and valleys. you could hike and bush whack and bleed all day a couple of miles and not really be any farther than where you started there would be points where the guide would turn around and we would go back the same way we came, went off in another direction. you don t have any line of sight, and you re down under the canopy. and you really don t even have a sense what direction you re walking. what i notice more than anything was this feeling that we were almost walking in circles. you ll pass a tree or some sort of feature of vegetation, and ....

Cross Into Colombia , The Village ,

Detailed text transcripts for TV channel - MSNBC - 20150525:23:13:00

We re uninvited. we re in the darien. we ve left the police outpost. and all we really have is victor. all i can think, stay with victor. stay with victor. if anyone is going to sort this out, victor is going to sort it out. victor kept his calm, and he walked directly to the chief s home. obviously they wanted to hear from us what we were doing there and what we were planning. victor negotiated with the tribe. the next day, victor negotiated guides for us. the plan was for the guides to take us as far as paya, which ....

Victor Didn T , Darien Gap , Police Outpost ,