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Detailed text transcripts for TV channel - MSNBC - 20150525:23:18:00

You ll swear you already walked by it. we camped at night and expected to be in colombia the following day. the next morning we woke up, we had breakfast. hey, robert, are you all packed? all packed. what about your hammock? and we continued. we knew that we were probably going to cross into colombia that day. right around noon, we decided to stop for lunch. and while we were eating, three men we knew from paya passed us. they were headed to the same village, and they were moving quite quickly. they had heavy bags, but they were moving much faster than we were. exchanged pleasantries and they were off. we knew we wouldn t see them again until we got there. so after lunch, we grabbed our stuff and we got back under way, ....

Cross Into Colombia ,

Detailed text transcripts for TV channel - MSNBC - 20150525:23:15:00

You literally have six to eight ounces of water stored in the tree. it was like a tremendous relief. we hiked all afternoon, and that afternoon we arrived in paya. coming into paya was much different than pucuro because they were expecting us. we made it to the last stop before you cross the border into colombia. that evening, we attended this tribal meeting. i can remember there is a group of young men kind of dancing in circles, playing their music, enjoying themselves. we ate fish and then rice and some bush meat, iguana. you eat what is served. ....

Cross Into Colombia , Dancing In Circles , Bush Meat ,

Detailed text transcripts for TV channel - MSNBC - 20150525:23:17:00

Paya was our last village, and then beyond that, the really serious part began. hiking through the jungle is what you would expect. everything is sharp and pointy or trying to eat you. i had a compass, but you can t just pick a direction and walk east. there is ravines and valleys. you could hike and bush whack and bleed all day a couple of miles and not really be any farther than where you started. there would be points where the guide would turn around and we would go back the same way we came, went off in another direction. you don t have any line of sight, and you re down under the canopy. and you really don t even have a sense what direction you re walking. what i notice more than anything was this feeling that we were almost walking in circles. you ll pass a tree or some sort of feature of vegetation, and ....

The Village ,

Detailed text transcripts for TV channel - MSNBC - 20150525:23:33:00

They wanted to see our maps. and they had some questions about paya and who was there and what was there. they decided that they were going into panama for themselves, but they needed a guide to retrace our steps. what did he say? he says they want to take victor with them to panama. there was a brief argument. tell them there is no reason to take him to panama. we were pretty emphatic about it. but victor didn t really say much of anything on his behalf. i think at that point he realized that things were beyond his control. [ speaking spanish ] i mean, we really pleaded with them, but they assured us. they said it s not to worry. we re just going to secure the area. a situation that i put myself ....

Brief Argument , Victor Didn T ,

Detailed text transcripts for TV channel - MSNBC - 20150525:23:23:00

There was no discussion. they were going back to paya. end of story. in moments, they were gone, and robert s gear and our food and everything were just on the trail. mark, are you okay? and now it was victor and meg and robert and myself. before we could talk about what we wanted to do or what our plan was, two of the men who had passed us earlier in the day showed up. one of them was bleeding, and they were completely terrified. apparently they had been cutting bamboo and people had just started shooting at them. that s all they could say. and then one of them sort of showed where the third man had been shot, that they had killed him. and they continued back to paya, where our guides had just run off to. i was trying to delay panic. ....