we should be prepared to be back here doing this same thing when that happens. because especially considering some of the things that mccarthy clearly gave away. i mean in the past they ve been able to do it with democratic help, and mccarthy in theory could do that. but it seems like they ve tried to hold his feet to fire here and say, no, what kevin mccarthy can decide to do is not put it on the floor. without getting into the specifics of all the ugly fights that are going to come, i think the point that you just made and others have made is that this is at large a vision of what we re going to see, possibly, going forward for the next two years in a very chaotic congress. and it has huge consequences. huge consequences for nation, but as we just settle on this moment, we are watching the history being made, because i believe on this 15th ballot kevin mccarthy will finally secure enough votes, whether it s through people voting present or switching votes to him to ac
anticlimatic. i ve never seen anyone win uglier than this ever. maybe bush after the florida recount. but this is pretty bad. it s not just the ugliness of the win, but on the backs of who. i mean, these characters are really the fringe of the fringe of the republican congress. and they re running the show tonight. and that s just a preview of what it s going to be like. matt gaetz, lauren boebert, who barely won her last race, you know, scott perry, who s deeply his text messages are being subpoenaed. you know, earlier we had paul go sar, who s spoken before white supremacist conferences. i mean, the people who are driving this train right now, these are not the folks that the republican party wants at the forefront. right now the debt ceiling is on track to be hit in august. usually that pushes a little bit into the fall.
different her more oxygen. she can use this to create more attention to generate more buzz, it s a very real concern. this? a part of her brand. this is who she is. she has hundreds of thousands of followers on twitter. reporter: boebert and other members of the republican freedom caucus exhibited controversial behavior, like marriagery taylor green and paul go sar have been called out as posers by dan crenshaw, who says they project themselves as loyal trump supporters but don t always vote with trump s agenda. members of congress, there is performance artists, there is legislators, and performance artists are the ones that get all the attention. the ones you think are more conservative because they know how to say slogans real well. they recite the lines they know our voters want to hear. we have grifters in our mix. reporter: some believe the republican infighting and outrageous behavior may hurt the
others constantly take the abuse by the democrats. i have to tell you, look, there is a lot of voter suppression, people have to leapfrog over that, if thigh don t kevin mccarthy could be speaker of the house. more scary, trump could be a speaker of the house, particularly if they don t have to be a member of congress. they re both in the policy, sexism, violence, the january 6th investigation could go away. they isn t said anything about go sar who tweeted a murder fantasy of aoc. how concerned that trump could be figured out and pittsburgh car think a trump accolite at this point could be speaker? the core of the republican party, the power nucleus of the rnc may not love it when marjorie taylor green says the things she says or matt gaetz says the stuff he says or go sar
tweets the crazy stuff he tweets. they are the j off the means crowd. you see it with candidates who were one-time never trump folks who are now all in on maga. they re fine with saying the quiet part out loud. there is still a core of the republican party that perhaps doesn t stylistically love someone like paul go sar but is going to continue to hang with them because they are an ends justify the means party. it s headed nowhere good. it may be dwindling. we may see the republican party losing some of its influence. but it s not losing its influence fast enough. as jason said, democrats have to meet the moment in a way they have not been. and you know the republican party might be losing their influence but they re not losing power. jason, we re overtime. but i have to ask you the question. i think the vote down ballot, the republicans that said we didn t like trump s language, we like his policies.