we should be prepared to be back here doing this same thing when that happens. because especially considering some of the things that mccarthy clearly gave away. i mean in the past they ve been able to do it with democratic help, and mccarthy in theory could do that. but it seems like they ve tried to hold his feet to fire here and say, no, what kevin mccarthy can decide to do is not put it on the floor. without getting into the specifics of all the ugly fights that are going to come, i think the point that you just made and others have made is that this is at large a vision of what we re going to see, possibly, going forward for the next two years in a very chaotic congress. and it has huge consequences. huge consequences for nation, but as we just settle on this moment, we are watching the history being made, because i believe on this 15th ballot kevin mccarthy will finally secure enough votes, whether it s through people voting present or switching votes to him to ac
anticlimatic. i ve never seen anyone win uglier than this ever. maybe bush after the florida recount. but this is pretty bad. it s not just the ugliness of the win, but on the backs of who. i mean, these characters are really the fringe of the fringe of the republican congress. and they re running the show tonight. and that s just a preview of what it s going to be like. matt gaetz, lauren boebert, who barely won her last race, you know, scott perry, who s deeply his text messages are being subpoenaed. you know, earlier we had paul go sar, who s spoken before white supremacist conferences. i mean, the people who are driving this train right now, these are not the folks that the republican party wants at the forefront. right now the debt ceiling is on track to be hit in august. usually that pushes a little bit into the fall.