But they do need the right to be respected. I think they re living beings just like us, and so they should be understood as much as we possibly can understand them. We shouldn t inflict needless pain on them, and we should curb some of our habits that cause them a lot of suffering. Peta, your organisation, people for the ethical treatment of animals, opposes what it calls speciesism and a, quote, human supremacist worldview. Can you sort of explain what that actually means? well, i think we have to get over ourselves as a species, as a human species. We ve sort of set ourselves up as gods, and we regard anyone that doesn t fit into the human species as sort of trash. I mean, as you said earlier, we might pet them, we might skin them. We decide. And yet animals are not like us, they are us. If we took elementary biology, we learned that we are one animal among many. It s a great, if you will, somebody said an orchestra of life, we each play a different instrument. That s rather romantic
Welcome to hardtalk. Thanks very much, stephen. Its a great pleasure to have you in the studio. Let me start by trying to establish a core principle. Is it your belief that animals should enjoy equal rights, the same rights as humans . Well, not the same rights, because, of course, they dont need the right to do some of the things we wish to do, like drive a car or vote, although they might do better than weve done sometimes. But they do need the right to be respected. I think theyre living beings just like us, and so they should be understood as much as we possibly can understand them. We shouldnt inflict needless pain on them, and we should curb some of our habits that cause them a lot of suffering. Peta, your organisation, people for the ethical treatment of animals, opposes what it calls speciesism and a, quote, human supremacist worldview. Can you sort of explain what that actually means . Well, i think we have to get over ourselves as a species, as a Human Species. Weve sort of s
Welcome to hardtalk. Im stephen sackur. We humans have a complicated relationship with animals. Some we pet, some we skin, some we eat. We destroy their wild habitats while we agonise about the loss of species diversity. It is not an equal relationship, its exploitative, but will it ever change . And if so, how . My guest is determined that it should. Ingrid newkirk is president and Co Founder of the Campaign Group people for the ethical treatment of animals. Is she the Human Ally Animals need . Ingrid newkirk, welcome to hardtalk. Ingrid newkirk, welcome to hardtalk. Thanks very much, stephen. Thanks very much, stephen. Its a great pleasure its a great pleasure to have you in the studio. To have you in the studio. Let me start by trying let me start by trying to establish a core principle. To establish a core principle. Is it your belief that animals is it your belief that animals should enjoy equal rights, should enjoy equal rights, the same rights as humans . The same rights as huma
Come to you 808 to 14000 and right now, Vice President Kamala Harris is in the critical Battleground State of pennsylvania, where minutes from now, she is expected right here to deliver a wide ranging economic micks speech. Her goal to chip away at former President Trumps lead on this top issue among voters have seen a national politics correspondent, Eva Mckend live for us in pittsburgh following the Harris Campaign Pain what she going to say today, eva well, brianna, the goal here is for her to expand on her economic agenda. We know in part we are still waiting thank for the details, of course. But that she is going to focus on american manufacturing perhaps no better place that argument. And right here in pittsburgh, in the Battleground State of pennsylvania, where it the economic club on the campus of carnegie mellon. Were hearing from senior advisors that this is going to be a pragmatic speech that she is going to talk about the power in heart want to sing american innovation that
This. I do believe that i know i know the vast majority of us as americans know, we have so much more in common than what separates us. I know that i know that regardless of someones background, their race, their gender, their geographic location. I know the people are deeply troubled by what is happening to that community in springfield, ohio. And its got to stop. And weve got to say that you cannot be entrusted with standing behind the seal of the president of the United States of america hateful rhetoric that as usual is designed to divide us as a country, is designed to have people pointing fingers at Each Other. Its designed to do that and i think most people in our country, regardless of their race, are starting to see through this nonsense and to say, you know what, lets turn the page on this. This is exhausting and its harmful and its hateful grounded in some age old stuff that we should not have the tolerance for. So lets turn the Page And Chart a new way forward and say you c