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giuliani. mr. giuliani said they thought ukraine should make a statement about fighting corruption and mr. yermac provided me a draft statement and i wanted to be assured that this statement would actually correct the perception that mr. giuliani had of ukraine and what they stand for now so that that would also be conveyed to president trump and solve this problem that i had observed with our may 23rd meeting with the president. the problem being that he s getting bad set of information. a statement like this could potentially correct that. so was mr. giuliani satisfied with this statement? no, he was not. why not? he believed it needed to say burisma and 2016 specifically or else it would not be credible, it would not mean anything. so in fact mr. giuliani wanted a statement that referenced burisma and 2016 elections explicitly. one that would benefit essentially president trump. mr. ambassador, here s the text you sent to the ukrainian official august 13th. you sa ....
ukraine had a statement about fighting corruption and mr. yermak would say burr mace in 2016. mr. yermak provided me a draft statement, and i wanted to be assured that this statement would actually correct the perception that mr. giuliani had of ukraine and what they stand for now so that that would also be conveyed to president trump and solve this problem that i d observed with our may 23rd meeting with the president. the problem that he s getting a bad set of information, statement like this could potentially correct that. so was mr. giuliani satisfied with this statement? no, he was not. why not? he believed that it needed to say burisma and 2016 specifically or else it would not be credible, it would not mean anything new. so, in fact, mr. jewel yagiu wanted it to state burisma and one specifically for president trump. mr. ambassador, here s the text you sent to the ukrainian official on august 13th, let s put that up on the screen. you said hi, andre. good talk ....
The nsc process? the nsc staff exists to ensure the president has the full array of options for his decision. thank you. i yield back. mr. castro. thank you chairman. thank you, gentlemen, for your testimony today. is it correct to say that both you gentlemen were either appointed or hired by the white house and by the trump administration? yes, sir. in my case by secretary tillerson. but part of the trump administration. yes. serving in the same administration. . ambassador volker, you previously identified that gordon sondland, i just know that he had a relationship with president trump that i did not have. in fact, in one text message dated july 26th you wrote to sondland, great photo. can you get this to potus without intermediaries. he spoke to the president from a ....
Policy? sir, the president. not some other staffer within the nsc process? it exists to make sure the president has the full array of options for his decision. thank you. i yield back. thank you, chairman. thank you, gentlemen, for your testimony today. is it correct to say both you gentlemen were either appointed or hired by the white house, by the trump administration? yes, sir. in my case by secretary tillerson. but part of the trump administration? yes. serving in the same administration. sure. ambassador volker, you previously testified that ambassador gordon sondland, quote, i just know that he had a relationship with president trump that i did not have. in fact, in one text message dated july 26, you wrote to ambassador sondland quote, great photo sondland can you get this to potus without intermediary. ....
And that is within mueller s per view. my assumption is is that mueller s people at least have situational awareness of this and the washington post did report yesterday as part of this incredible story that they ran, there was a reference to the fact that mueller s people have been asking about kushner s protocols that he used for taking foreign government or meetings with foreign actors outside of the nsc process. so it s an open question how much this is on mueller s radar screen, but i suspect it s not zero. michael, pick up on that point. there s been a lot of talk about jared kushner and his foreign contacts. this raises the specter of that. part of the probe. i do think it s a collision ....