and that is within mueller's per view. my assumption is is that mueller's people at least have situational awareness of this and "the washington post" did report yesterday as part of this incredible story that they ran, there was a reference to the fact that mueller's people have been asking about kushner's protocols that he used for taking foreign government or meetings with foreign actors outside of the nsc process. so it's an open question how much this is on mueller's radar screen, but i suspect it's not zero. >> michael, pick up on that point. there's been a lot of talk about jared kushner and his foreign contacts. this raises the specter of that. part of the probe. >> i do think it's a collision