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the prosecutor. providing a plethora of details about the days and weeks after the 2020 election. when donald trump and his allies tried anything and did everything they could to reverse what they knew was trump s election defeat. we re getting a look at what sidney powell and jenna ellis told prosecutors during the recessions. those are the meetings where defendants who take plea deals reveal any information that could be used against the other defendants in this case. which includes rudy giuliani and donald trump. former trump attorney general ellis descriing a chilling conversation with trump aid at a white house christmas party. i said something to him like i m sorry that we haven t been able to do more. and i emphasized to him i thought that the claims and the ability to challenge the election results was essentially over because of the dismissal of the case from the the supreme court. he said to me in an excited tone, well, we don t care. we re not going to leave. i

Transcripts for MSNBC The Rachel Maddow Show 20220203 05:32:00

biden s win in wisconsin. if we are going to do that, a slate of trump electors in wisconsin needs to meet in the wisconsin state capitol on december 14th. and they need to cast their votes for trump, because that is what the law would require real electors to do if trump had won, if it is going to be seen as valid. so that is the memo that happens from november 18th. then there is a memo between two lawyers that lays out not just what the fake wisconsin trump electors would have to do, but what they would have to do in several states, states that biden won that trump was nevertheless trying to overturn. this was less than a week before december 14th, the date when presidential

Transcripts for MSNBC The Rachel Maddow Show 20220203 09:28:00

time that lawyers and allies of dr. plump had weighed the possibility of naming their own electors in the hopes that they would eventually succeed in the battleground states and baselessly asserting widespread fraud. but the november 18th memo, and another one, three weeks later, they are among the earliest known efforts to put on paper proposals for preparing alternate electors. it helped to shape a crucial strategy that trump embraced with profound consequences for himself and the nation. so we have been covering for weeks now, on this show, the evolving understanding of this theme by trump and friends, to falsify the election results, and try to keep trump in power even though he lost. and part of that is this thing that is emerging with more and more clarity all the time, part of the scheme was to send fake slates of electors to congress.

Transcripts for MSNBC The Rachel Maddow Show 20220203 02:29:00

paperwork to try to cast fake votes in the electoral college for donald trump. you can see in the headline here on this story that broke just as we were getting on the air, them osha roots of trump s focus on january 6th and alternate electors. here is the lead 15 days after election day in 2020, a lawyer for the trump campaign in wisconsin received a memo setting out what became the rationale for an audacious strategy to put in place alternate slates of electors, slates where trump was trying to overturn his loss. the memo may not have been the first time that lawyers and allies of trump weighed the possibility of naming their own electors in the hope they may eventually succeed in flipping the outcome in battleground states through recounts and lawsuits baselessly asserting widespread fraud. but the november 18th memo, again 50 days after the election, and another 13 weeks later are among the earliest known efforts to put on paper proposals for preparing alternate electors.

Transcripts for MSNBC The Rachel Maddow Show 20220203 05:31:00

mike pence to use the fake electors, to count the fake electors instead of the real ones, to overturn biden s election and declare that trump had won. so, we knew that it happened at the time but we did not understand that it was coordinated or how it fit into a larger, more serious scheme. but that has been evolving over the last few weeks. all the while, the sort of origins of the scheme, like who came up with the idea and how it was communicated to the people on the ground, to the republicans who gathered and forged documents and got them to the right places at the right time, the sort of command and control of the conspiracy, that has all been a little murky. these new memos published tonight by the new york times shed some light on that work, they shed some light on how this came together. you have that first memo from november 18th, 15 days after the election. it is written to a trump campaign lawyer in wisconsin to another lawyer he had apparently consulted for advice. that me

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