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Have in part become used to some of it and then in part the news cycle moves so furiously that people move on. people were up in arms about separating migrant children were parents. people were up in arms about the commerce secretary potentially lying about citizenship questions. there have been ethical lapses, numerous cabinet officials. you know, trump himself has lied. so there has been outrage after outrage. the question is is the outrage if the report is not made public, is that sustained? all right. mieke, into your life s work we go, and i want you to join us in watching something jill wine banks said on this network whose first rodeo this is not. jill of course is a veteran of watergate. we ll talk about it on the other side. one of the things that helped so much in watergate was before we brought indictments, before there was an impeachment vote, before there were articles of impeachment there were public hearings and people already ....
Up to the attorney general. so here with us tonight to talk about all of it, mieke o yang, washington attorney, former staffer for the house intelligence and armed services committees. and nancy cook, white house reporter for politico. nancy, i don t want to be cute about this, but i guess this is going to be another test for the folks watching tonight, the folks who were watching us when we did barr s confirmation hearing. that this nice man with horn-rimmed glasses who has been attorney general once before in our history is going to keep to his word and be the american people s advocate in the justice department and do as he thinks is right and release whatever he thinks is right. absolutely. but i do think that he made it clear if you listened to what he said in his confirmation hearing, you know, he said he would do whatever he thought was laid out by the law. but that doesn t necessarily mean that he has to make the report public. it means that he has to issue a ....
Is a situation in the department of justice that was very shocked and very concerned as to with the president s actions in the firing of jim comey. no one has said otherwise. in fact, we ve seen documentary evidence in the form of foia requests of people inside the department of justice who were also very concerned. but he is explaining how that manifested at a very high level. and i think if that s the level of concern they were feeling inside the fbi and the doj, there are many, many people who are incentiveized to try to do the most thorough report that they can into potential criminal activity and counterintelligence concerns against russia and the president and his campaign. i need to keep you both to about ten-second predictions, starting with you, mieke. is it possible barr gets the report from mueller while the president is overseas? i think he s likely to get an interim report, not a final. and nancy, the same question. i know you touched on this earlier. ....
Two years. members of congress are going to go crazy if they get a redacted, edited or god forbid confidential report from the attorney general. i think that there will be. but you have to keep in mind that there has been outrage over so many things that has happened during the trump administration during the last two years and we have in part become used to some of it and then in part the news cycle moves so furiously that people move on. people were up in arms about separating migrant children were parents. people were up in arms about the commerce secretary potentially lying about citizenship questions. there have been ethical lapses, numerous cabinet officials. you know, trump himself has lied. so there has been outrage after outrage. the question is is the outrage if the report is not made public, is that sustained? all right. mieke, into your life s work we go, and i want you to join us in watching something jill wine banks said on this network whose first rodeo this is not. ....
Understood the facts and so they could accept the results in a way that they wouldn t have. the facts were out enough that the public rose in protest after the saturday night massacre. that s why we need public hearings right away, even if mueller s report is made fully public. mieke, your opinion of that. i agree with that. i think that public hearings to lay out the factual predicate for any action that congress is going to take is very important. and what you see is a coordinated effort across many congressional committees. financial services, intelligence, oversight, even judiciary. to look at the different aspects of this. they ve started calling some witnesses, but i would expect that we are going to spend much more time on congressional hearings even after the mueller report is public. what do you make, mieke, so far of what andy mccabe has said? recognizing this is part of tour is under constant fire from the president of the united states. i think what he s describing ....