But for the First Time Since maybe the 1980s, maybe even the 1960s, today were confronting a real possibility that Vladimir Putin might decide to use Nuclear Weapons in the war in ukraine. Terrifying possibility. This is a kind of wild eyed scenario that used to be able to read about only in the back pages of obscure rand reports, but its here in real life right now today. So the book were talking about today arrives at exactly the right time. The book is called winning and losing the Nuclear Peace and its about the decadelong effort to reduce Global Nuclear dangers. And were fortunate of the author Michael Krepon here with us to talk about it today. Michael is the cofounder and distinguished senior fellow at the stimson center. He cofounded the stimson center. In 1989 after working the executive branch and on capitol hill. He received the Carnegie Endowment award for Lifetime Achievement in nongovernmental work to reduce Nuclear Dangers in 2015. For people like me, thats like being vo
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