thinks at least he sees this as a moment where he did that. mckay koppens of the atlantic, thank you so much. thank you. all right, so how will the latest investigation into kavanaugh s past play out? and what key evidence will the fbi be looking for? and what will they discover? we ll discuss next.
another part of this article which i know you know so well. but i want the audience to hear this particular athat mike pence has of communicating according to mckay koppens, who has watched him do many, many of these speeches and who says he just hung up the phone with donald trump and he always chuckles a little bit after he says that. and the way mckay koppens reports it, it almost as if in that brief barely perceptible moment pence is sending a message for those with ears to hear that he recognizes the absurdity of his situation. that he know just what sort of man he is working for. that while things may look bad now, there is a grand purpose at work here, a plan that will manifest itself in due time. how did you interpret that, david? well, what mckay is describing we ve all seen. if you watch that clip where john dickerson of cbs asks vice president pence about the russia collusion, pence gives exactly that same warm chuckle before
trump s place as the party s nominee. republican donors and party leaders began buzzing about making pence the nominee and drafting condoleezza rice as his running mate. joining us now, david forum, senior editor for the atlantic, and back with us ron klain. and david, we all remember how many republicans immediately distanced themselves from nominee donald trump when the access hollywood video came out. and according to this reporting, behind the scenes, mike pence was one of them. look, this is such a terrific piece of reporting. it s my colleague mckay koppens. if mckay said it happened, it happened. he is a terrific reporter. but the delusion in the republican party. do you remember those old loony tune where the coyote would step off the cliff, assuming that he was all set and in fact it s the cliff that collapses. the central fact that every republican has to cope with is these coups can t work. as unpopular as donald trump, the regular republican party is that much less popu
reported trump sent pence a letter saying he needed time to decide whether he could stay with the campaign. but in fact according to several republicans familiar with the campaign, he wasn t just thinking about dropping out, he was contemplating a coup. within hours of the post bombshell, pence made it clear that he was ready to take trump s place as the party s nominee. republican donors and party leaders began buzzing about making pence the nominee and drafting condoleezza rice as his running mate. joining us now, david forum, senior editor for the atlantic, and back with us ron klain. and david, we all remember how many republicans immediately distanced themselves from nominee donald trump when the access hollywood video came out. and according to this reporting, behind the scenes, mike pence was one of them. look, this is such a terrific piece of reporting. it s my colleague mckay koppens. if mckay said it happened, it happened. he is a terrific reporter.
views. and we learn tonight in the hill for example, the last straw. donald trump said mike pence lacked class for bringing his dogs to the vice presidential residence. he is even insulting the man s pets. so mike pence is basically taken it from trump. he signed on for the duration. and clearly is now part of the trump team. and david, i want to read you another part of this article which i know you know so well. but i want the audience to hear this particular athat mike pence has of communicating according to mckay koppens, who has watched him do many, many of these speeches and who says he just hung up the phone with donald trump and he always chuckles a little bit after he says that. and the way mckay koppens reports it, it almost as if in that brief barely perceptible moment pence is sending a message for those with ears to hear that he recognizes the absurdity of his situation. that he know just what sort of man he is working for. that while things may look bad now, there is a