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to our world? with us this morning, the prime minister s right hand man, oliver dowden. and by the man who wants to be the next foreign secretary, labour s david lammy. and the chief of the defence alliance nato, jens stoltenberg, tells us about the growing threats to the west. we live in a more dangerous world, and we have to be prepared for crisis. morning. today we re reflecting on two important anniversaries six months since the october 7th hamas attacks on israel, but also 75 years since the founding of the defence partnership, nato. we are living in serious times, but i promise we will have lots of enlightening conversations too, maybe even a bit of wit with our panel this morning ruby wax, lord mark sedwill, who was the national security advisor and cabinet secretary in charge of the civil service, and baroness amos, former labour cabinet minister under tony blair, and master of university college oxford, a very warm welcome to you all and a very warm welcome ....
that is also true. they can t both be right. well. that is also true. they can t both be right. well, sometimes - that is also true. they can t both be right. well, sometimes you l that is also true. they can t both l be right. well, sometimes you can that is also true. they can t both - be right. well, sometimes you can do thins be right. well, sometimes you can do thin . s that be right. well, sometimes you can do things that you be right. well, sometimes you can do things that you think be right. well, sometimes you can do things that you think are things that you think are constitutionally a bit weird. if it will help constitutionally a bit weird. if it will help the general because of fighting will help the general because of fighting the pandemic. let me summarise, i think there is an issue summarise, i think there is an issue it summarise, i think there is an issue it is summarise, i think there is an issue. it is not a huge, huge issue. not as ....
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service unease about the challenging approach of some of the special advisers approach of some of the special advisers and i had to make a judgment about the particular issue. and i decided, on balance, that at a very difficult time for the country i very difficult time for the country iwouid very difficult time for the country i would rather have a number ten where i would rather have a number ten where people challenged ideas and where where people challenged ideas and where people challenged ideas and where people brought new ideas and where where people brought new ideas and where people brought new ideas and where people felt free to say things other where people felt free to say things other tharr where people felt free to say things other than an where people felt free to say things otherthan an numberten where people felt free to say things other than an number ten where everybody other than an number ten where everybody tried to pretend that all wa ....
communication if you like but not enough was done. the other issue i think we will hear an awful lot about was obviously last week was a science week, we heard from some of the top scientists and again the general theme there seemed to be the scientists frustration with this government mantra of following the science which they said basically meant that scientists were used as scapegoats for controversial decisions that politicians were making. and then of course the general thing which has been bubbling along over the last few weeks has been the chaos and confusion right at the centre of government in downing street. a lot of that is to do with the personalities involved, and so i think we will be hearing more on all of that because michael gove really had a front row seat to all of it. and another big name that we are expecting to hear from this week, matt hancock, the former health secretary, of course, who has come in for a huge amount of criticism from those at th ....