few weeks later like hey look. we have proof that is not the case and it is like yet another lie that the former president is caught in. i think what is very clear here is jack smith is taking this very seriously and going where the path leads and if i was donald trump and frankly i think donald trump is very afraid of what is going to come out of this and oust the january 6 and jack smith has shown he is going to pursue this to the ends of the earth. myles, you worked in this trump administration and you ve said you ve seen trump mishandle classified documents. what did you see? well, let me say one quick thing first to pick up on where adam was at on the iran revelations here. i want to be very, very clear. when this was happening during the trump administration, when there were conversations about the potential attack plans related to iran, i was on the staff at the department of homeland security.
for one day, trump s lawyers also met with the special counsel today in a completely separate case, the one focused on his efforts to overturn the 2020 election. it appears an indictment there is likely as well and the lawyers made a last ditch plea to jack smith to avoid it. we ll get to that in just a moment but let s start first with the new charges in the mar-a-lago case. with us now is paula reed. this is really extraordinary. in some ways we ve been talking to lawyers for weeks. many did not necessarily expect more coming for trump in particular but not only is it more, but so much more detail here as well. that s right. not only new charges but also a new co-defendant. here they re adding a one count of willful retention of national defense information and then two additional counts of obstruction because these prosecutors allege the former president and two of his employees tried to destroy surveillance footage. now, that surveillance footage
transfer the case out of the district of columbia. that is the only way he will avoid a conviction. very interesting. all of you, thank you very much. coming up next for us former congressman and former presidential candidate tim ryan joins me live on new charges against donald trump. plus we will talk about another questionable moment today involving an older lawmaker, senator dianne feinstein, confused during a vote. we ll discuss that next. office [typing] focusing on a little blue-sky thinking. i ll b be taking meetings with family and friends. and checking voicemail as my activities permit. i ll connect with you after reconnecting with me. get 1.9% apr for 36 months plus $1,500 purchase allowance on a 2023 xt5 and xt6 when you finance through cadillac financial.
and then you acid wash them or bleach them. i d like to see the server. i think it is very important for this country to see the server. joining me now is one of donald trump s 2024 republican rivals former texas congressman will hurd. we played that really to illustrate how much this has been a part of the public life and now to see in this indictment pretty clear evidence, allegations here that trump was the one who directed his aides to try to delete surveillance footage, delete the server so federal investigators would not see what was on them. abby, i ve never been indicted and i am not a lawyer, but if you are deleting evidence it is because you know you are committing a crime. anybody who supports this, anybody who defends this, is complicit in endangering america, endangering men and
co-defendant in addition to trump s long time aide walt nauta who was charged in the first indictment they are now also charging another mar-a-lago employee, carlos deoliveria a maintenance worker at mar-a-lago and has been seen on surveillance footage moving boxes with walt nauta. it has been a question about whether he, too, would be charged. today we got our answer. paula, tell us what we know about this third co-defendant now, carlos de oliveria, the head of maintenance at mar-a-lago. how did he get wrapped up in this? the boss wanted something done, right?so unique about thi investigation is through our reporting we ve seen pretty much every single employee at mar-a-lago has had to talk with special counsel investigators at one point. there were a few who really stood out as possibly having criminal exposure. walt nauta being the first. we know he was pressed to flip and did not do that. here we have carlos.