state of mind here, i think the superseding indictment adds more lawyers to just the curiosity about what would have prompted him to take all of these extra steps? as you pointed out, right after he first learned there would be a subpoena for the documents, he basically has walt nauta move the boxes and then has them try to delete the surveillance footage. do you think there is more here about why trump really didn t want the feds to get the documents back? i think he had a right to hold on to them. the fact is these are america s top secrets and he was storing them in a bathroom in mar-a-lago. they had no place to be there with him. it is one thing if you accidentally, mistakenly take classified documents in a move and obviously we ve seen from trump and his team they ve tried to conflate the issue with, you know, former vice president pence accidentally taking classified material, president
prosecuted. i think word is out that you could not do things like that. so i will think there will be some noise, i hope it is not a whole lot, but i hope it stays kind of isolated in certain areas on social media, but i hope that most reasonable people saying that he was trying to destroy the tapes at mar-a-lago, why would you do that if you are innocent? why do you have the maintenance guy moving the stuff around? why are you ordering people to fly? some of that stuff is so obvious but like you said there are gonna be people who will defend that until the end, there will be some, but i hope not a whole lot. i think it is a call for us, abby, as a country to wake up, to say we are coming up on the 250th anniversary of the united states of america. it s a miracle we made it this far, how are we going to make it another 250 years? it s going to be ensuring responsibility and reform, and
tonight, with donald trump facing new charges in the classified documents case including accusations he ordered aides to delete the server of mar-a-lago s surveillance video. if that sounds familiar it is because of this. where is the server? how come the fbi never got the server from the dnc? where is the server? i want to see the server. let s see what s on the server. now i don t know how the fbi can investigate something if the dnc, the democrats refuse to give the server. where is the server? i want to know where is the server? what is the server saying? she set up this illegal server knowing full well that her actions put our national security at risk and put the safety and security of your children at risk. there has never been anything like this where e-mails and you get a subpoena, you get a subpoena and after getting the subpoena you delete 33,000 e-mails.
oliveera. he found employees who will do anything for him and that is a crime in itself. and they put in the superseding indictment the transcript of the interview that the fbi had at carlos de oliveira s home. you read it and you see someone who is leaping, before he is even asked a question, he says, no. he is lying before he is even asked. that was so interesting to me about just the conduct of someone who is embroiled in a very serious case and his willingness to go there for trump. it s sad. i don t even know if he understands the magnitude of what he has gotten himself into now. note that the lawyers didn t fall for this. most of us lawyers are pretty good about to try to cover ourselves and not be coerced by a client to lie in their behalf. they knew better. i see it as a shame these junior level individuals who are not attorneys or trained in the law
arguments we ve learned in our reporting that they made was that this would be tumultuous for the country and of course it would but i think the whole crux of the january 6th case comes down to how tumultuous the accusations are, that trump tried to subvert a free and fair election. how do you think that plays out on balance? it is really ironic to hear them say him being indicted over this would be tumultuous when i thought that january 6th was tumultuous. i thought trump denying the results of a free and fair election and refusing to this day is something horrible for our nation s democracy. what is really sad is that he has convinced his supporters this is the case. obviously not all of his supporters but a large swath of them believe this and they believe this was a fraudulent election when there s been no evidence of that. he has even tried to pursue this in court and failed time and time again. and so i think that if they have