and how are the referrals from the january 6th committee to the referral list? we are hearing from the republican committees that the referrals are not meaning anything, and such as an average american making referrals, but what the republicans are looking forward to from the committee is sfran cli the release of the transcripts, because they want to dig through them, and look for any exculpatory evidence and any evidence they might point to as a defense of the former president, and kevin mccarthy wants to dig into any potential security failures leading to the attack on the capital, and you can believe that there are republicans digging through the transcripts that points to anything on that as well. thank you very much. now, let s bring in governor tom wolfe of pennsylvania who is leaving office, and having term limited out, and being replaced by josh shapiro in january, and so, good to see you, and this election lies, and the insurrection is very relevant to your commonwealt
post, carolyn. it is great to see you all. i will start with you, because i think we all at this point understand these don t necessarily merit legal weight, how will they then impact what the doj does next? it is hard to tell exactly how much they what the impact of the adjacent actions, because the one sex sixth committee is looking at in terms of making referrals is different than they are looking at, can they established by preponderance of the evidence, meaning more likely than not that the crimes that there are alleging or referring to the doj is all actually occurred. when the look at these he s going to make a decision as to whether he can prove these charges beyond a reasonable doubt, which of course we all know is an incredible standard for proof in a trial. and he attacked a little bit about that in terms of why they want this record, but as far as the doj s actual actions that
no conclusion because he thought he was so bad it was a mealy report. those are the reasons why. on the other hand and a general nuanced judgment call. not a political rift in the committee. it puts pressure on garland. he could dismiss it. and it could also i think worried to be off putting. it is not evidence. one more thing. making referrals for contempt they re the victims. this is information. this is the political act. i don t mean to discount that of a congress say so that weighs in
spread of this contagious new variant. and two courtney subramanian, we just had the new york times come in with the news from the nhl. it is pausing its games for the remainder of the year. not the hockey season, so for canadians and hockey fans don t worry there should be a hockey season. but for the moment, it means there are no games for the remainder of the week. joyce alene vance, i have to ask you about the progress of the january six committee making they have subpoenaed a sitting member of congress. a lot of people thought that he was the chief of staff to the president during january six. but more importantly, when people disobey the subpoenas that they are getting, the committee has started making referrals to the department of justice, criminal referrals. and one of them at least has resulted in an arrest. what is the thinking around that? the committee is unable to do certain things but they are recruiting the justice department to do the things that they can t get done.
the remainder of the year. not the hockey seasons so for canadians and hockey fans, there should be a season but it means there are no games for the remainder of the week. i have to argue, joyce, about the progress that the committee is making. people will wonder wasn t mark meadows one? he was one. when people are disobeying these subpoenas that they re getting, the committee has started making referrals to the department of justice, criminal referrals and one of them at least has resulted in an arrest. what s the thinking around that? the committee is unable to do certain thing but they re recruiting the justice department to do things they can t get done, getting people to come forward and talk. that s part of the awkward position congress is in here. they don t technically have the ability it enforce their own