here on msnbc. now it s time for the last word with lawrence o donnell. good evening, lawrence. but evening, rachel. and i m sure you know what my absolute favorite part of your show was tonight. show was tonight no, what was a? i went into the control room to watch the isolated cameron rachel, so that i wouldn t miss a single fraction of a second of rachael blushing while alex wagner was was raising her and thanking her for what she has created here at msnbc. and you think a lot of that shot at home was on alex, so a lot of people couldn t see your blush in part, as much as they deserved to see it. all i could do in that moment, while you are staring at, me because you know me well enough to do that, is like, could i have done this in such a way that i precluded this from happening? could i have spoken the beginning of this interview and this discussion in such a manner, but there s no way that alex could have maneuver this into talking about me? and i just was s
shot at home was on alex, so a lot of people couldn t see your blushing, as much as they deserved to see it. all i could do in that moment, while you are staring at me because you know me well enough to do that, is like, could i have done this in such a way that i precluded this from happening? could i have spoken the beginning of this interview and this discussion in such a manner, that there s no way that alex could maneuver this into talking about me? and i just was sitting there going, do it again, maddow, fix it, go back in time. meanwhile, you had me trapped in your gaze. well, she was in fact speaking for all of us it, since you know, before these this version of me on this network, i, for some years, had the pundit title of a senior political analyst, which i got, i think, because no one knew you could get titles. and i guess, can i get that, and they were like, yeah, sure. so i kind of predated you hanging around here. i was here before you arrived, and i c
you here, as well as several members of our national council on white house history, which we are always grateful to have. well, this evening it is my honor and privilege to introduce a really terrific friend of mine and a friend of the white house historical association. mark updegrove serves as a president and ceo of the lbj foundation in austin, texas. he s a presidential historian for abc news and also an accomplished author. mark has actually authored five books on the presidency, including this book that we are celebrating this evening, incomparable grace, jfk in the presidency. i had the privilege of recording a podcast this afternoon with mark, which we will release later in the month on the book is officially released. it was a fascinating conversation, i really enjoyed my time with mark and i think you re going to enjoy the time with him here this evening. he has also written for the new york times, the politico, national geographic, time, the daily beast, usa today
and flowers and landscaping. susan swain: that s from a film created by the johnson administration with lady bird johnson talking about beautification, her signature issue as first lady. she was a natural campaigner, successful businesswoman, and a savvy political partner to her husband, our 36th president, lyndon baines johnson. good evening, and welcome to c-span s first ladies: influence and image. tonight, we ll tell you the story of claudia taylor johnson, known to everyone as lady bird, the wife of our 36th president. here to tell our story tonight are two guests, cokie roberts, political commentator for abc news and npr. she s also the author of two books about women s political history, founding mothers and ladies of liberty. thanks for being here. cokie roberts: good to be here. swain: betty boyd caroli is a first ladies expert. she is the author of numerous books, including first ladies: from martha washington to michelle obama, and she s currently working o
conversations with experts, tors of historical sites, and questions from c-span s audience, we tell the stories of the first ladies. now, lady bird johnson. this is about two hours. lady bird johnson: a beautification to my mind is far more than a matter of cosmetics. to me, it describes the whole effort to bring the natural world and the man-made world into harmony. to bring order, usefulness, delight to our whole environment. that, of course, only begins with trees, flowers, and landscaping. susan swain: that s from a film created by the johnson administration with lady bird johnson talking about beautification, her signature issue as first lady. she was a natural campaigner, successful businesswoman, and a savvy political partner to her husband, our 36th president, lyndon baines johnson. good evening, and welcome to c-span s first ladies: influence and image. tonight we ll tell you the story of claudia taylor johnson, known to everyone as lady bird, the wife of our 36t