national economic advisor to the president. god s will? well as larry kudlow says it s god s will. steve: now the latest targets is white house press secretary sarah sanders. jim carrey tweeted a painting that s supposed to be sanders this is the portrait of so-called christian whose only purpose in life is to lie for the wicked. monstrous. pete: are americans losing their place i -are christians losing their place in american life? pastor brian houston, thanks for being here. ainsley: such an honor to have you here. i love your church. it s so great. most of you know the music coming out of hill song. that s how we all in america found out about your church in australia years ago. and now have you planted churches all over the country and all over the world. congratulations. that s true. and the music definitely did lead the way. ainsley: it really did.
say about our culture today? america was founded alongside judeo-christian. founders men of faith. yet attacking that very faith. where are they? i think christianity has always been attacked, i think. i think that the message of jesus is stronger. so i don t feel we have a lot to fear. i feel like the church is strong, it s resilient. it s going forward. i know my experience church is filled with young people, young people who are hungry for god. hungry for the things of god. so, i think we shouldn t get too distracted. i think in these days trouble will come. persecution will come. i feel like we have to be absolutely committed and resilient because the christian faith is great news. it s not just looking after a set of principles that go back a long way. it s great news for people today. in the 21st century. i think as long as we keep focusing on that great news, his name is jesus.
and he has so much for people. and if we keep on that, then we don t have to concern ourselves too much about those who chip away from the outside. ainsley: you wrote this great book it s called there is more. i love that there has to be more because our country is so divided. i feel that more than ever. you write the great unknown. and i have always heard don t let fear stand in the way of your destiny. if you are fearful, don t let that stop from you reaching your dreams. hill song church was berthed with absolutely no guarantees. there was no promised financial support. no guarantees people would come and no certainty in faith an jesus and confidence in his calling that god would bless this brand new little outreach church. look what god has done with your church now. why did you start hill song. why did we start? we started because we cared about people. and we started in the small suburb way down under in sydney, australia. that s why the way it has gone and the global and h
like going to scene setter. your church. you brought a lot of fun back into churches. younger generation loves your church especially. steve: we played a snippet from theview where joy behar said it was mental illness if you are talking to god. she eventually walked it back and apologized. then have you got the thing from jim carrey as well. what do you make of this. they are interesting times. aren t they? i think christians are an easy target sometimes. after all jesus taught turn the other cheek which is maybe a little different than others. so, at the end of the day, i really don t feel like it s going to have that huge of an impact on the christian church. i think it says more about the people making the attacks than it does what they are actually attacking. steve: what do you mean? well, i think we all speak out of what is going on out of their heart when people start making pot shots at other people, it s sometimes uncalled for, unfair it really shows what s inside of them.